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## Main Question or Discussion Point

Hi. I'm trying to get an idea how to look at the beginning, before the cosmic background radiation (CBR) and what we can detect with our eyes, and what we can assume about earlier times than light was around.

I was looking into the red shift effect effect, as not only a measure of relative velocity, but also a measure of relative time shift.

Such that, for the greatest red shifted locations in the universe, and therefor the most distant, we see events there unfolding at a slower rate of time also, the amount depending on the distance to the galaxy. The time shifts can be mapped out just as the velocities. Is this correct? If incorrect, which in cosmology is likely, no probs.

So if so, then, if we imagine continuing back to before the first cosmic light is released, we can imagine the red shift and time shift continuing on back, without our need seeing it, by using theory and extrapolation. Is that correct? Is that what the math tells us?

If so, let's take it to 1ms. second after the beginning. Assuming 'red shift' and time shift doesn't end at the CBR event, but continues back beyond CBR, can we calculate the red shift at time 0 +1ms.?

Will it be near infinite? Some other value?

How about the time shift? Near infinite, frozen in time from our perspective? If so, is this what gives the universe a similar look to a black hole, where both the boundaries of the accessible universe is analogous to the event horizon of a black hole?

I was looking into the red shift effect effect, as not only a measure of relative velocity, but also a measure of relative time shift.

Such that, for the greatest red shifted locations in the universe, and therefor the most distant, we see events there unfolding at a slower rate of time also, the amount depending on the distance to the galaxy. The time shifts can be mapped out just as the velocities. Is this correct? If incorrect, which in cosmology is likely, no probs.

So if so, then, if we imagine continuing back to before the first cosmic light is released, we can imagine the red shift and time shift continuing on back, without our need seeing it, by using theory and extrapolation. Is that correct? Is that what the math tells us?

If so, let's take it to 1ms. second after the beginning. Assuming 'red shift' and time shift doesn't end at the CBR event, but continues back beyond CBR, can we calculate the red shift at time 0 +1ms.?

Will it be near infinite? Some other value?

How about the time shift? Near infinite, frozen in time from our perspective? If so, is this what gives the universe a similar look to a black hole, where both the boundaries of the accessible universe is analogous to the event horizon of a black hole?