Does such a function as f(x)=f'(x) exist?

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The discussion centers around the existence of functions that satisfy the equation f(x) = f'(x). Participants explore examples, implications, and related concepts within the context of calculus and differential equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a function exists that satisfies f(x) = f'(x) and requests an example.
  • Another participant suggests f(x) = 0 as a trivial solution and mentions f(x) = e^x as a well-known function with this property.
  • A further reply indicates that the general solution can be expressed as f(x) = Ce^x, where C is an arbitrary constant.
  • Some participants express surprise that the original poster (OP) is learning about differential equations without prior exposure to logarithms.
  • There is speculation that the OP's question stems from curiosity rather than formal instruction in differential equations.
  • Additional examples are provided regarding functions that are equal to their own nth derivatives, such as e^{-x} and sin(x).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence of functions like e^x that satisfy the condition f(x) = f'(x). However, there is no consensus on the OP's educational background or the appropriateness of their question in relation to their current studies.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the potential pedagogical implications of learning differential equations without prior knowledge of logarithms, suggesting a gap in the curriculum. There is also an acknowledgment of the OP's curiosity as a possible driver for their question.

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i was wondering if this function actually exist or dosent if it does can someone provide an example
 
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Have you tried f(x) = 0 ? :)
More seriously, there is a well-known function with this property: [itex]f(x) = e^x[/itex] .
 
And to show yourself it, try solving the differential equation ##\frac{dy}{dx} = y##

It doesn't really prove much, but its a nice way to convince yourself that what slider142 said is true!
 
Or more general: ##f(x)=Ce^x## for an arbitrary constant ##C##. These are all the functions that satisfy your equation.
 
Thanks we haven't gotten to logarithms yet
 
Then why did you ask this question?
 
it seems odd, pedagogically, that one would be learning about differential equations and calculus without first learning about logarithms.
 
My guess is that the question arose out of OP's curiosity rather than actually being introduced to differential equations in the coursework. I remember when learning calculus I had similar curiosities myself, before even learning about exponential and logarithmic functions.

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It sounds like the OP is in the first semester of calculus, where at some point you are eventually told that ex has the very property being discussed here. Probably the class hasn't gotten there just yet.

Also, the OP may have meant that they haven't covered logarithms yet in the calculus course. At least that would make more sense then never having gotten to them, ever.
 
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It might be interesting to note that some functions are also equal to their own nth derivatives, for example:

[itex]\frac{\mathrm{d}^2}{\mathrm{d}x^2} e^{-x} = e^{-x}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{\mathrm{d}^3}{\mathrm{d}x^3} e^{\frac{-x}{2}}\sin(\frac{\sqrt{3}x}{2}) = e^{\frac{-x}{2}}\sin(\frac{\sqrt{3}x}{2})[/itex]

[itex]\frac{\mathrm{d}^4}{\mathrm{d}x^4} \sin x = \sin x[/itex]
 

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