Does the act of observing/measuring define an arrow of time?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of whether the act of observing or measuring influences the perception of the arrow of time, particularly through the lens of Feynman diagrams in particle physics. Participants explore interpretations of these diagrams and their implications for understanding time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Feynman diagrams can be interpreted in a way that links the act of observation to the flow of time, proposing that a photon could represent an 'observation' that influences the direction of time.
  • Another participant acknowledges the interpretation but emphasizes that interpretations must provide new insights to be considered valuable.
  • A later reply challenges the initial interpretation by stating that while it may offer elegance, it does not necessarily yield new information or understanding about the nature of time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the value and implications of the proposed interpretation of Feynman diagrams in relation to the arrow of time.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of their interpretations and the extent to which they contribute to understanding the arrow of time. The discussion reflects differing perspectives on the utility of theoretical interpretations in physics.

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i was just reading the following article and had an interesting thought; http://www.ipod.org.uk/reality/reality_arrow_of_time.asp

Referring to the following image (http://www.ipod.org.uk/reality/reality_arrow_of_time.asp )

Both Feynman diagrams are said to be mathematically equivalent. The left describes an electron the emits a photon and experiences a recoil in its direction of propagation through space corresponding to momentum lost. the diagram on the right describes a photon that changes to a positron (electron moving backward in time) and an electron.

Is it possible to interpret the diagram on the right as a photon that collides with an electron moving backwards in time (positron) and the recoil sends the positron flying forward in time (converting it to an electron)? say, the photon resembles an 'observation' or 'measurement'. assuming this interpretation is sound, could it be that the act of observation/measurement, be it from the environment or a human apparatus, be the reason for the apparent 'flow of time' that we experience ? what are your thoughts? (its not a fully developed idea, just a thought!)
 
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Yes, but that would be an interpretation. Interpretations are interesting, but only useful if they tell us something new.
 
so you mean to say that this interpretation could not and would not tell us anything new?
 
pondzo said:
so you mean to say that this interpretation could not and would not tell us anything new?

That fact about Feynman diagrams is well known.

And no, that it can be viewed that way tells us nothing new. It may make understanding some things easier, more elegant, etc etc, but telling us something new - that's another matter.

Thanks
Bill
 

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