Does the basicity of hydrides increase with larger atom size?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between atom size and the basicity of hydrides, specifically addressing the statement that larger atoms lead to weaker H-X bonds and lower electron density, resulting in weaker bases. Participants clarify that while a weaker A-H bond facilitates the formation of the conjugate base A-, the final electron density of the conjugate base is influenced by its size. The conclusion drawn is that the basicity of hydrides does not solely depend on bond strength but also on the size of the conjugate base formed after proton removal.

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I am confused with the statement given by a website (http://www.chem.ucalgary.ca/courses/351/Carey5th/useful/acidbase.html

"Size. When comparing atoms within the same group of the periodic table, the larger the atom the weaker the H-X bond and the lower the electron density making it a weaker base."

When A-H bond becomes weaker, the production of A- becomes easier, so electron density on A increases. Hence the base has to be stronger right?
 
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AdityaDev said:
the production of A- becomes easier, so electron density on A increases

I don't see how the latter comes from the earlier. Electron density is not a function of how easily the bond is broken.

Or perhaps what you mean is that after the proton is removed, electron density on the conjugate base left is higher than it was before the reaction? Sure, that's true. But still the final electron density depends on the size of the conjugate base, and we are comparing different bases comparing their final electron densities.
 
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