Does the Comparison Test Determine Convergence or Divergence of Series?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the comparison test to determine the convergence or divergence of the series $$S_{6}=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \dfrac{1}{n^2 \ln{n} -10}$$. Participants explore the steps involved in applying the comparison test, including the necessary inequalities and comparisons with known convergent series.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the comparison test by comparing $$\dfrac{1}{n^2 \ln{n} -10}$$ with $$\dfrac{1}{n^2 \ln{n}}$$.
  • Another participant points out that the inequality $$n^2\ln(n)-10 < n^2\ln(n)$$ leads to $$\dfrac{1}{n^2\ln(n) - 10} > \dfrac{1}{n^2\ln(n)}$$, indicating that the initial comparison may not be valid.
  • A participant questions the necessity of including the summation symbol when discussing the comparison.
  • Further, a participant emphasizes the importance of comparing entire series rather than just individual terms, proposing to compare $$\sum \frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10}$$ with the known convergent series $$\sum \frac{1}{n^2}$$.
  • Another participant outlines the steps to find the values of $$n$$ for which the inequality $$\frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10} < \frac{1}{n^2}$$ holds, concluding that this is true for $$n \ge 5$$.
  • It is suggested that if the inequality holds for large enough $$n$$, then the series $$\sum_{n=5}^\infty \frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10}$$ converges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the comparisons being made. There is no consensus on the application of the comparison test, as some participants challenge the initial steps while others propose alternative approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of their comparisons, and the discussion includes various assumptions about the behavior of the series involved. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the appropriate application of the comparison test.

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Use the comparison test to determine if the series series convergences or divergences
$$S_{6}=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \dfrac{1}{n^2 \ln{n} -10}$$
ok if i follow the example given the next step alegedly would be...
$$\dfrac{1}{n^2 \ln{n} -10}<\dfrac{1}{n^2 \ln{n}}$$
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note ...

$n^2\ln(n)-10 < n^2\ln(n) \implies \dfrac{1}{n^2\ln(n) - 10} > \dfrac{1}{n^2\ln(n)}$

$\displaystyle \sum \dfrac{1}{n^2\ln(n)} < \sum \dfrac{1}{n^2}$ converges ... so the comparison above isn't going to fly.
 
oh ..

why put the $\sum $ back in ??
 
karush said:
oh ..

why put the $\sum $ back in ??

The goal is to compare series, not just the nth term.Let's compare $$\sum \frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10}$$ with the known convergent series $$\sum \frac{1}{n^2}$$

if $$\sum \frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10} < \sum \frac{1}{n^2}$$ for large enough $n$, then we can say $$\sum \frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10}$$ converges

first off, we need to find what values of $n$ make $$\frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10} < \frac{1}{n^2}$$

for that inequality to be true ...

$n^2\ln(n) - 10 > n^2$

$n^2\ln(n) - n^2 > 10$

$n^2[\ln(n)-1] > 10 \implies n \ge 5$

so, $$\sum_{n=5}^\infty \frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10} < \sum_{n=5}^\infty \frac{1}{n^2} \implies \sum_{n=5}^\infty \frac{1}{n^2\ln(n)-10}$$ converges.
 

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