Does the Immirzi Parameter Determine Black Hole Entropy in Loop Quantum Gravity?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the role of the Immirzi parameter (IP) in loop quantum gravity (LQG) and its implications for black hole entropy calculations. Participants explore whether the IP must be fixed to a specific value to align with semi-classical entropy predictions and how this relates to various spin foam models.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion regarding the necessity of fixing the Immirzi parameter to a particular value for black hole entropy calculations in loop quantum gravity.
  • Others reference a paper suggesting that the Immirzi parameter may not significantly influence the semi-classical limit of certain spin foam models.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of the Immirzi parameter in defining coherent states and the semi-classical limit of the current theory, citing a specific paper for reference.
  • Questions arise about the relationship between different spin foam models (EPRL, FK) and their connection to the canonical spin network framework.
  • Concerns are raised about the clarity and consistency of the definitions and roles of the Immirzi parameter across various models and papers.
  • Some participants note that while EPRL retains the Immirzi parameter in its asymptotic analysis, FK may not, leading to further questions about their relationship and implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the role of the Immirzi parameter or its implications for different models. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding its significance in loop quantum gravity and black hole entropy calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are references to various papers and models, indicating a complex landscape of theories and interpretations that may not be fully resolved. The discussion highlights the evolving nature of loop quantum gravity and the challenges in reconciling different approaches.

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Perhaps we shall not have a good answer to that question until Rovelli writes a paper on it, because Rovelli seems to be the only guy in the LQG community able to write a paper truly understandable to a wider physics community.
 

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