Does the Schrodinger Equation Describe Particles Popping In/Out of Existence?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the applicability of the Schrödinger equation in describing the phenomenon of particles and their corresponding anti-particles briefly popping in and out of existence, as presented in a video by Brian Greene. Participants explore the relationship between the Schrödinger equation and quantum field theory, particularly in the context of particle creation and annihilation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the Schrödinger equation can describe particles and anti-particles popping in and out of existence, suggesting that it involves setting limits on integrals to define time and volume ranges for probability calculations.
  • Another participant argues that in nonrelativistic quantum mechanics, particles do not appear or vanish, indicating that quantum field theory is necessary for such processes, where operators can create and annihilate particles.
  • A third participant provides a definitive response stating that the Schrödinger equation does not describe the popping of particles in and out of existence.
  • Another participant clarifies that the Schrödinger equation primarily describes the behavior of a particle's wavefunction over time and space, without addressing particle creation or annihilation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the applicability of the Schrödinger equation to the phenomenon of particles popping in and out of existence. Some argue that it is not suitable, while others explore its potential limitations and the need for quantum field theory.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the distinction between nonrelativistic quantum mechanics and quantum field theory, noting that the Schrödinger equation does not account for particle creation and annihilation, which may depend on additional interactions.

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Hello -
A few questions I have after watching Brian Green’s The Elegant Universe –
Within the video Dr. Green shows a neat way to view the different scales relativity and quantum mechanics are involved with. He takes an elevator to a top floor to show relativity’s applicable scale. He steps out of the elevator to show planets below him. The fabric of space-time is show as a graph paper grid – everything was very calm.

He takes the elevator down (way down) and steps out to show the quantum scale. The environment was very noisy (I compare it to watching an oscilloscope with the voltage scale set way down – lots of jitter and noise.

Within this jitter it was explained that particles and their corresponding anti-particles were briefly popping into and out of existence.

From my very limited experience with the Schrödinger equation – I see that the limits on the integral can be used to set a time range and / or volume range and the solution is a probability of that event happening within that range.

Does Schrödinger equation describe these particles / anti-particles popping in and out of existence?
If one was to solve a problem for a particular particle – an electron popping into existence – is there a parameter within the Schrödinger equation that is particle specific? Meaning how would equation differ by solving the probability of an electron popping into existence versus a different particle popping into existence?

Thanks
Sparky_
 
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In nonrelativistic quantum mechanics, there are no particles appearing/vanishing. You need quantum field theory, there you have operators which can produce and annihilate particles in the hamiltonian. If you use that in the Schrödinger equation, it can handle creation and annihilation of particles.

Meaning how would equation differ by solving the probability of an electron popping into existence versus a different particle popping into existence?
An electron cannot simply be created, you need an additional positron popping up. And if those do not interact with other particles in the right way, they have to vanish again. However, you can calculate the probability for all allowed processes - at least in theory.
 
There is a very simple answer: No.
 
As far as I know all the Schrödinger equation tells you is, if you have a particle or system of particles how the wavefunction of that particle or system behaves spatially and temporally.
 

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