Understanding Gauge Symmetry: A Review of the Schrödinger Equation

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The discussion centers on the concept of gauge symmetry and gauge invariance in the context of the Schrödinger equation, exploring theoretical implications, definitions, and the nature of wave functions in quantum mechanics. Participants examine the relationship between gauge transformations and physical observables, as well as the implications of these concepts for different observers and specific scenarios like magnetic monopoles.

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  • One participant questions whether the Schrödinger equation should yield the same wave function for different observers, suggesting that local phase differences necessitate modifications to the equation for consistency across locations.
  • Another participant clarifies that gauge symmetry is not a true symmetry, emphasizing the distinction between gauge symmetry and gauge invariance, and notes that while the wave function itself is not gauge invariant, observables must be.
  • A participant acknowledges the importance of continuous and single-valued wave functions under gauge choices, mentioning the complications introduced by topological obstructions, such as those encountered with magnetic monopoles.
  • Discussion includes the concept of large gauge transformations, which are said to act asymptotically and can change the quantum state, contrasting with local gauge transformations that do not affect states in the same way.
  • Another participant expresses concern about the prevalent use of the term "gauge symmetry," questioning its validity and whether it can be separated from gauge invariance.

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Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the terminology and conceptual distinctions between gauge symmetry and gauge invariance. There is no consensus on the implications of these concepts for the Schrödinger equation or the nature of wave functions.

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Participants highlight limitations related to the definitions of gauge transformations and the implications for wave functions, particularly in the presence of topological features. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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I have reviewed the various posts on gauge symmetry in particular this one which is now closed. In this post there is the following link:http://www.vttoth.com/CMS/physics-notes/124-the-principle-of-gauge-invariance.

This is a good read. However, there is some clarification I need.

The article has the following:
"By far the simplest gauge theory is electromagnetism. And by far the simplest way to present electromagnetism as a gauge theory is through the non-relativistic Schrödinger equation of a particle moving in empty space:iℏ∂ψ∂t=−ℏ22m∇2ψ.Although the equation contains the wave function ψ, we know that the actual probability of finding a particle in some state is a function of |ψ|. In other words, the phase of the complex function ψ can be changed without altering the outcome of physical experiments. In other words, all physical experiments will produce the same result if we perform the following substitution:ψ→eip(x,t)ψ,where p(x,t) is an arbitrary smooth function of space and time coordinates."

Then it goes on to derive the Schrödinger substituting in this varying function and after a lot of steps shows:

"iℏ∂ψ∂t=−ℏ22m{[∇+i∇p(x,t)]2−2mℏ∂p(x,t)∂t}ψ.
which is not the original Schrödinger equation. "

My question/line of thinking: Is the Schrödinger equation supposed to produce the same 'answer' for the wave function at every point in space? In other words two different observers at two different points in space calculating the wave function via the 'ordinary' Schrödinger should end up with the same answer? However this does not happen because each observer is allowed/has a different value for the phase of the wave function based on their location. Therefore to rectify this, the Schrödinger equation has to be modified so as to cancel out this local location-dependent phase and once that is done everyone at every point using this 'modified' Schrödinger equation will end up with the same wave function?

I would appreciate any feedback as to whether I am on the right track here. Thanks in advance.
 
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Gauge symmetry is not a real symmetry. A symmetry acts on one state and takes it to another. A gauge transformation takes a state to the same state. The correct terminology is gauge invariance. The wave function is not a gauge invariant object. It doesn’t have to be because it is not an observable. However all observables like probability amplitudes, currents, etc. must be gauge invariant. Any gauge dependence must cancel out. That’s why you have both the canonical and kinematic momentum in the presence of the magnetic field, the canonical momentum is not gauge invariant.

One thing to note is that once you choose a gauge, the wavefunction must be continuous and single valued at every point in space. However, there are times when there are topological obstructions to this. Then you need to choose different gauge covering different areas which are related by enforcing these conditions on the wavefunction. For example, if you have a magnetic monopole, you must choose a different gauge to cover the north and south pole regions. However, given the singlevaluedness of the wavefunction, these gauge can only different by some quantized amount. For a magnetic monopole, this restricts the charge to be quantized in units of \frac{\hbar c}{2e}. This gives rise to various phenomena such as the quantization of the Hall conductance. The number of quanta n is a topological invariant, you cannot change it via smooth deformations.
 
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Thanks for the distinction between gauge symmetry and gauge invariance. I think however based on the amount that I see gauge symmetry used it will be a long battle to knock it out of use. Or is there such a thing as gauge symmetry apart from gauge invariance?
 
There are a special class of gauge transformations called large gauge tranformations that act asymptotically (out at infinity). These are different from local gauge transformations which tend to 1 out at infinity and act trivially (annihilate states). Large gauge transformations are physical symmetries because acting with them changes the quantum state of the system. This makes them completely different even though it large and local gauge tranformations look the same locally. This is directly related to the topological phenomena I mentioned.
 

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