Does the Universe really have to be at least as old as the oldest thing in it?

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In summary, there is no evidence to support the idea that something older than our universe originating from another universe could wind up in our universe, and current mainstream cosmological theories don't allow for such a thing.
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It is commonly said that the universe must be at least as old as the oldest thing in it but is this really the case? Could something older than our universe originating from another universe get sucked into a wormhole and wind up our universe and therefore actually be older than our universe itself?
Could something older than our universe originating from another universe get sucked into a wormhole and wind up in our universe therefore being older than our universe itself?
 
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Jupiter60 said:
Could something older than our universe originating from another universe get sucked into a wormhole and wind up in our universe therefore being older than our universe itself?

The short answer is no.

The slightly longer answer is that we have absolutely no evidence for the kind of thing you describe.

The somewhat longer answer is that, even if we did find evidence for things appearing through wormholes in our universe, we would not interpret that as evidence for "other universes". We would interpret it as evidence that our own universe contained parts that we hadn't known about before. So the things coming through the wormholes would have come from our universe and would still be younger than it.

Most cosmologists would probably just stop at the second answer above.
 
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Jupiter60 said:
Could something older than our universe originating from another universe get sucked into a wormhole and wind up in our universe therefore being older than our universe itself?

Wormholes, as they are currently understood, exist entirely within our own universe and don't lead to others. So, no. There is no chance of this within the current realm of scientific possibility.
 
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I am not an expert in cosmology but I guess current mainstream cosmological theories don't allow for wormholes that connect different universes.

However it might be the case that what you are saying is somehow true via some theory unknown to us, which contradicts current mainstream theories. Human kind still hasn't evolve a lot in terms of technology required to examine distant objects and determine their origin. There might be many objects out there, next to us or million light years away , that we are unable to examine and determine their origin. What you saying is an open possibility.

However according to my personal opinion, there is only one universe, there is no multiverse.
 
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Delta2 said:
However it might be the case that what you are saying is somehow true via some theory unknown to us, which contradicts current mainstream theories.

We cannot discuss such hypothetical theories here. We can only discuss theories that actually exist, based on textbooks or peer-reviewed papers that describe what the theory says.

Delta2 said:
There might be many objects out there, next to us or million light years away , that we are unable to examine and determine their origin.

Of course, but this is not at all the same as saying there might be objects coming through wormholes from other universes.

Delta2 said:
What you saying is an open possibility.

Please do not make claims based on hypothetical theories that don't even exist. Our best current theories do not include what the OP is saying as an open possibility. And our best current theories are the best we have to go on at this point in spacetime.
 

1. How do we determine the age of the oldest thing in the universe?

The age of the oldest thing in the universe is determined through a variety of methods, including radiometric dating of rocks and fossils, measuring the expansion rate of the universe, and studying the cosmic microwave background radiation. These methods provide different estimates, but they all point to an age of around 13.8 billion years for the universe.

2. Why does the age of the oldest thing in the universe matter?

The age of the oldest thing in the universe is important because it provides us with a timeline for the history of the universe. It helps us understand how the universe has evolved and changed over time, and gives us insight into the origins of our own solar system and planet.

3. Is it possible for the universe to be younger than the oldest thing in it?

No, it is not possible for the universe to be younger than the oldest thing in it. This is because the oldest thing in the universe is used as a reference point for determining the age of the universe. If the universe were younger than the oldest thing in it, it would create a logical contradiction.

4. Can the age of the oldest thing in the universe change?

The age of the oldest thing in the universe is constantly being refined and updated as new research and data becomes available. However, the general consensus among scientists is that the age of the oldest thing in the universe is around 13.8 billion years and is unlikely to change significantly.

5. What implications does the age of the oldest thing in the universe have on our understanding of the universe?

The age of the oldest thing in the universe has significant implications on our understanding of the universe. It supports the theory of the Big Bang, which states that the universe began around 13.8 billion years ago. It also helps us understand the formation of galaxies, stars, and planets, and provides evidence for the expansion of the universe. Additionally, it challenges our perceptions of time and the vastness of the universe.

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