Does the Z boson couple to photons?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether the Z boson couples to photons, exploring the theoretical framework of electroweak interactions and the implications of gauge boson couplings. Participants examine the existence of direct and indirect interactions involving Z bosons and photons, referencing the electroweak Lagrangian and various coupling scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the existence of a Feynman rule for the coupling of two Z bosons to a photon.
  • Another suggests that a four-boson vertex involving W+, W-, Z0, and A may exist, but emphasizes the need to reference the electroweak Lagrangian for confirmation.
  • A participant proposes that Z bosons can interact indirectly through fermion loops, even if no direct vertex exists.
  • There is mention of the process Z+Z -> gamma + gamma as a possible interaction.
  • One participant asserts that the only direct vertex is W+ + W- => Z0 + Photon, while noting that intermediate states can lead to various interactions.
  • Another participant states that there are no all-neutral gauge boson couplings in the Standard Model (SM) and discusses the implications of conservation laws on possible interactions.
  • A claim is made that the self-interaction of gauge bosons in non-abelian gauge theory only allows different bosons to interact, thus excluding Z-Z-A and Z-Z-Z interactions.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the applicability of certain theoretical frameworks to the electroweak theory, noting the mixing of the photon in the original basis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of Z boson and photon interactions, with no consensus reached on the existence of direct couplings or the implications of theoretical frameworks. Multiple competing perspectives remain regarding the mechanisms of interaction.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific equations and figures from the electroweak Lagrangian, indicating that the discussion is grounded in complex theoretical constructs that may involve unresolved assumptions and dependencies on definitions.

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Hi I can't find a Feynman rule for the coupling of two Z bosons to a photon. Does the Z boson couple to a photon at all?
 
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You can get Z+Z -> gamma + gamma.
 
zz to fermion to 2gamma

zzA is not in the SM lagrangian
 
That's what I say: the only direct vertex is

W+ + W- => Z0 + Photon

but via intermediate states you can get (nearly) anything you like.
 
There are no all-neutral gauge boson couplings in the SM.

It's easiest to see this by working in the w1, w2, w3, B basis rather than the W+/-, Z, A basis.

Tom is right, these can appear at loop level, but these will be second-order weak and GIM surpressed. However, you still have to comply with conservation laws. For example, you can't get any electric dipole radiation because the Z is neutral. I need to think more about magnetic dipole and electric quadrupole.
 
The coupling of gauge bosons self interaction in non-abelian gauge theory is proportional to f_{abc}, i.e. only diffrent bosons can interact. So, no Z-Z-A and no Z-Z-Z interactions. You can also think that photon only couple to charged particles directly.
 
I do not see how this applies directly. In the el.-weak theory we have U(1)*SU(N); in addition the photon is "mixed" according to the original basis.
 

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