Does Thinking Make You Smarter ?

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The discussion centers around the question of whether engaging in mentally demanding activities, such as playing strategy games, can enhance one's intelligence or cognitive abilities. Participants explore the definitions of "smart" and intelligence, the relationship between skills and knowledge, and the potential cognitive benefits of various games.

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  • Some participants suggest that playing games may improve certain skills but argue that this does not equate to becoming "smarter" in terms of academic knowledge.
  • Others propose that games like chess and Starcraft II could enhance analytical skills and decision-making processes, but they remain cautious about claiming a direct link to increased intelligence.
  • A participant mentions that their experience in mathematics led to a better understanding of problem-solving, implying that rigorous mental activities may foster cognitive growth.
  • There is a discussion about the broad nature of intelligence, with some asserting that intelligence encompasses various forms, not solely academic knowledge.
  • One participant questions the assumption that using one's brain more leads to being "smarter," suggesting that efficiency in thinking might be a more relevant measure.
  • Another participant raises a hypothetical scenario comparing two individuals with different gaming experiences to explore the impact on learning capabilities.
  • Concerns are expressed about the vagueness of the term "smart," with calls for clearer definitions of what constitutes improved brain function.
  • Some participants highlight the importance of stress management in enhancing cognitive abilities, suggesting that a calm state can improve brain power.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on whether playing games makes one smarter. Multiple competing views remain regarding the definitions of intelligence and the effects of gaming on cognitive abilities.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the transferability of skills gained from gaming to other areas of knowledge and cognitive function. The discussion also highlights the need for clearer definitions of terms used, such as "smart" and "brain function."

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Does Thinking Make You "Smarter"?

I've always had an unspoken, unverified assumption that playing any game that uses a lot of mental power will make one "smarter."

How do I define smart? As basically anything that improves brain function.

I guess my question is: does the brain work like a muscle? Does constant critical thinking "work out" one's brain?

Would playing a strategy game (whether it's chess or Starcraft II) help one's mental processes?

Thanks in advance for the answers. Also I'm not sure if this thread belongs in general discussion, or one of the more technical scientific sections of the forums...
 
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Playing a game can possibly improve certain skills, but it won't make you "smarter' as in gaining more academic knowledge. Skills do not equal intelligence.
 


As Evo said; Playing certain games, like chess and strategy games, may improve analytical skills I guess. But I wouldn't go as far as saying that playing games would make you "smarter".
 


Evo said:
Playing a game can possibly improve certain skills, but it won't make you "smarter' as in gaining more academic knowledge. Skills do not equal intelligence.

In my opinion, skills are much closer to intelligence than knowledge is. I would never define smart as having a lot of knowledge, but rather having better "brain power," whatever that means.
 


I'm not sure playing SC2 will make you smarter, but I can say that most of my fellow mathematics classmates seemed "smarter" after slogging over proofs for so many years, not just in terms of a knowledge of math, but more like, an understanding of how to logically approach a problem and assess what courses of action to take.

SC2 can teach you better "on the fly" decision making, better prediction of human behavior, and it can probably improve manual dexterity though.
 


GladScientist said:
In my opinion, skills are much closer to intelligence than knowledge is. I would never define smart as having a lot of knowledge, but rather having better "brain power," whatever that means.

I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees that intelligence is a very broad concept. There are different "ways" to be intelligent.
 


I wouldn't assume using your brain more makes you 'smarter'. However, if this leads you to consistently have a more efficient thinking process which allows for more effective problem solving then it might be ok to say you've become 'smarter'
 


SHISHKABOB said:
I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees that intelligence is a very broad concept. There are different "ways" to be intelligent.

For the sake of this thread, I'm basically using the word "smart" to mean any of many possible definitions.
 


GladScientist said:
I've always had an unspoken, unverified assumption that playing any game that uses a lot of mental power will make one "smarter."

How do I define smart? As basically anything that improves brain function.

I guess my question is: does the brain work like a muscle? Does constant critical thinking "work out" one's brain?

Would playing a strategy game (whether it's chess or Starcraft II) help one's mental processes?

Thanks in advance for the answers. Also I'm not sure if this thread belongs in general discussion, or one of the more technical scientific sections of the forums...
Chess memory was thus shown to be even more specific than it had seemed, being tuned not merely to the game itself but to typical chess positions. These experiments corroborated earlier studies that had demonstrated convincingly that ability in one area tends not to transfer to another. American psychologist Edward Thorndike first noted this lack of transference over a century ago, when he showed that the study of Latin, for instance, did not improve command of English and that geometric proofs do not teach the use of logic in daily life.
http://wimse.fsu.edu/media/expert-mind.pdf p.68
 
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GladScientist said:
For the sake of this thread, I'm basically using the word "smart" to mean any of many possible definitions.
Actually that would make the topic impossible to discuss. What would be "smart" in the context of playing games? Hand to eye coordination? Being more aggressive? Taking more risks?
 
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That is a ridiculous assumption. Playing a game does one thing, it makes you good a playing a game.

Being "smart" is really just having a large collection of skills. If you do a lot of math, you'll get very good at math, but you'll know nothing more about politics or philosophy or how to choose a good car.
 
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Obviously some clarification is needed...

Suppose that neither person A nor person B know anything about math. Person A spends 10 years killing hookers in Grand Theft Auto wile person B spends 10 years playing chess.

Would person A have a harder time learning math?

I've heard it before, I think from a teacher, that sitting still and doing nothing is better for your brain than watching television. Because the person doing nothing will at least be using their mind a bit, while the person watching TV is mindlessly receiving entertainment. If this is true, then shouldn't actively using your mind constantly have an effect greater than that of doing nothing, or of doing some mindless activity?
 
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GladScientist said:
Obviously some clarification is needed...

Suppose that neither person A nor person B know anything about math. Person A spends 10 years killing hookers in Grand Theft Auto wile person B spends 10 years playing chess.

Would person A have a harder time learning math?

I've heard it before, I think from a teacher, that sitting still and doing nothing is better for your brain than watching television. Because the person doing nothing will at least be using their mind a bit, while the person watching TV is mindlessly receiving entertainment. If this is true, then shouldn't actively using your mind constantly have an effect greater than that of doing nothing, or of doing some mindless activity?
Chess memory was thus shown to be even more specific than it had seemed, being tuned not merely to the game itself but to typical chess positions. These experiments corroborated earlier studies that had demonstrated convincingly that ability in one area tends not to transfer to another. American psychologist Edward Thorndike first noted this lack of transference over a century ago, when he showed that the study of Latin, for instance, did not improve command of English and that geometric proofs do not teach the use of logic in daily life.
http://wimse.fsu.edu/media/expert-mind.pdf p.68
 
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Zooby I'm not ignoring your post haha, it seems like a solid answer to my question. I'd just like to receive more input.
 
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GladScientist said:
How do I define smart? As basically anything that improves brain function.


Your definition of smart is vague. You need to define function.
 
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GladScientist said:
In my opinion, skills are much closer to intelligence than knowledge is. I would never define smart as having a lot of knowledge, but rather having better "brain power," whatever that means.
Skills, smarts, intelligence, all are greatly improved when a person is calm and relaxed. Stress, especially extended stress, makes people stupid and greatly dulls memory functions. Severe extended stress alone can cause hippocampal sclerosis. (The hippocampus is the part of the brain most responsible for memory.) I would say the single best thing a person can do to enhance raw "brain power" would be to practice some kind of relaxation technique.
 
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Evo said:
Very interesting find zoob.
SelfAdjoint actually first posted that article in 2006 and it stuck with me.
 

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