Does \(x^3 = y^3\) Imply \(x = y\)?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical statement that if \(x^3 = y^3\) for positive \(x\) and \(y\), then it implies \(x = y\). Participants explore whether this implication holds for all real numbers, questioning the conditions under which the statement is valid.

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  • The original poster attempts to demonstrate the implication using algebraic manipulation and factoring. Some participants question the validity of the implication for negative values of \(x\) and \(y\), while others clarify that the statement holds true for all real numbers, including negative values.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's reasoning. There is a mix of agreement and exploration of different cases, particularly regarding the implications for negative numbers.

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Participants note the importance of the conditions \(x > 0\) and \(y > 0\) in the original statement, while also considering the broader implications for all real numbers.

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the question is from the book "elementary geometry from an advanced standpoint 3rd edition" by edwin e. moise

Homework Statement


Given x>0 and y>0, show that x^3 = y^3 => x = y. Does this hold for all every x and y?

Homework Equations


a^3-b^3=(a-b)(a^2+ab+b^2)=0

The Attempt at a Solution


so what i did was subtract y^3 from both sides to get
x^3-y^3 = 0

then i factored it out to
(x-y)(x^2+xy+y^2) = 0

because we know that x>0 and y>0, the second term (x^2+xy+y^2) is always positive. because of this (x-y) must equal zero
then we setup the equation x-y=0
x=y.

i think i did this correctly, but since i am teaching myself out of this book (i just want to learn more about geometry because i felt like i was never taught it well) i have no way of verifying if this is correct
 
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Welcome to PF, ironman14781 :smile:

Looks good!

Btw, this holds true for every x and y (real numbers).
Why would you think otherwise?
 
edit: nvm, i read the question wrong. i see what you and the question mean now lol

thanx
 
ironman1478 said:
if y is negative and x is positive then their cubes can't be equal right?

No...? :confused:

But then the conditions do not hold either:
y>0
x^3=y^3
x=y
 
It is not a matter of "x< 0, y> 0". If x and y are any two numbers such that x^3= y^3, then x= y. It may be that x and y are both positive or that they are both negative (or both 0).
If x and y are both negative then xy is positive so it is still true that x^2+ xy+ y^2 is positive.
 

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