Meet Faith the Dog: A Miracle of Faith & Love

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The discussion centers around Faith the Dog, a three-legged dog who was rescued and trained to walk upright. Participants share personal anecdotes, opinions on the nature of Faith's abilities, and reflections on the broader implications of her story, including themes of belief, animal awareness, and the human-animal bond.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recount the story of Faith, noting her rescue and the challenges of teaching her to walk upright, attributing her success to a combination of training and faith.
  • Others express skepticism about the supernatural claims associated with Faith's abilities, suggesting that the narrative may be anthropomorphizing the dog's experience.
  • One participant shares a personal experience with a three-legged gerbil, drawing parallels between their experiences and questioning the attribution of miraculous outcomes to divine intervention.
  • Another participant emphasizes the idea that Faith, like other animals, does not possess self-awareness in the human sense and is simply living her life without concern for societal norms of "normalcy."
  • Some participants challenge the notion of attributing Faith's abilities to religious beliefs, suggesting that the dog's experience should be viewed independently of human interpretations.
  • A later reply acknowledges the complexity of animal awareness, suggesting that while animals may have a form of self-awareness, it differs significantly from human self-awareness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of admiration for Faith's story and skepticism regarding the supernatural elements attributed to her training. There is no consensus on the implications of Faith's abilities or the nature of animal awareness, leading to multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about Faith's training and abilities are based on personal beliefs and experiences, which may not align with others' perspectives on animal cognition and the influence of belief systems.

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Faith you can believe. http://faiththedog.info/content/faith-welcomes-you-hugs-and-licks

The apparent official version - "Faith is an incredible dog. She was born just before Christmas in 2002, and we were lucky enough to have her in our family just 3 short weeks later. She was born to a mother dog, believed to be nearly full blooded Chinese Chow Chow, along with several other siblings. Faith wasn't the only puppy born with deformities, but because "Princess", her mother, was not our dog, we are not sure of the exact number of puppies she gave birth to. It is certain, however, that Faith was the only puppy with deformities to live.

Faith was rescued by my son Reuben on January 21, 2003, when he and his friend Johnny, the owner of Princess, jumped over the fence of the flea market area that Princess was raised to guard. Princess isn't exactly the mothering kind. She was literally terminating Faith's life because she knew instinctively that Faith was unable to battle the other puppies for a place to feed. Faith was weak, small, runtish, and mostly she was nearly dead. Reuben grabbed Faith out from under Princess and smuggled her under his jersey. He wore #63 for the Putnam City Pirates football team.

When Reuben brought Faith to us she had 3 actual legs, but the left front leg was badly deformed, placed backward, upside down, and it had more toes on it than normal dog legs. The leg was removed when she was 7 months old when it began to atrophy. People ask me if it was easy to teach Faith to walk upright...the answer is NO! It was not easy, and it was not natural. It was SUPER natural, and therefore, we have to give all of the credit to Jesus. Of course, it took a little...Faith as well. "




An apparent unofficial version circulating on the internet.
He was born on Christmas Eve in the year 2002. He was born with 3 legs, 2 healthy hind legs and 1 abnormal front leg which had to be amputated.

He of course could not walk when he was born. Even his mother did not want him.

His first owner also did not think that he could survive and he was thinking of 'putting him to sleep.

But then, his present owner, Jude Stringfellow, met him and wanted to take care of him.

She became determined to teach and train this little dog to walk by himself.

She named him 'Faith'.


Snopes verifies the story - http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/faithdog.asp
 
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When I was a kid I had a gerbil with three legs (I called it stumpy - we didn't do 'differently-abled' in the 70s)
It did Ok on it's hind legs - not sure which god was responsible for this miracle.
 
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Astronuc said:
People ask me if it was easy to teach Faith to walk upright...the answer is NO! It was not easy, and it was not natural. It was SUPER natural, and therefore, we have to give all of the credit to Jesus.

:rolleyes:
 
negitron said:
Astronuc said:
People ask me if it was easy to teach Faith to walk upright...the answer is NO! It was not easy, and it was not natural. It was SUPER natural, and therefore, we have to give all "of the credit to Jesus."

:rolleyes:
I'm sure the dog doesn't mind. Jude Stringfellow is free to believe what she believes.
 
Maybe it's an atheist dog. Ever think of that, Mister? It's having its religious freedoms trod upon!
 
Faith is a fascinating dog to watch.

I loved it in the video when Ms. Stringfellow said something to the effect of Faith not knowing that s/he wasn't a normal dog. Well, given that dogs have no self-awareness to begin with and, as with small children, their test of "normal" is themselves, then, no, Faith wouldn't have any idea nor would the dog care. Faith's just busy living and getting on with life.

And I think there's something profound in that. Faith's actual attitude, not the anthropomorphised one. (And yes, Ms. Stringfellow is certainly entitled to her projected notions. And she's a good person for taking on such a darling creature who so many people would have simply walked away from.)
 
mgb_phys said:
When I was a kid I had a gerbil with three legs (I called it stumpy - we didn't do 'differently-abled' in the 70s)
It did Ok on it's hind legs - not sure which god was responsible for this miracle.

I'm impressed! I've never known anyone to train a gerbil before.

I've never even seen a gerbil to do something as simple as fetch. Most of the gerbils I've seen aren't all that close with humans. Their attitude seems to be "if he doesn't put me in that stupid ball again so the cat can bat me around, I'll be happy".
 
GeorginaS said:
Faith is a fascinating dog to watch.

I loved it in the video when Ms. Stringfellow said something to the effect of Faith not knowing that s/he wasn't a normal dog. Well, given that dogs have no self-awareness to begin with and, as with small children, their test of "normal" is themselves, then, no, Faith wouldn't have any idea nor would the dog care. Faith's just busy living and getting on with life.

And I think there's something profound in that. Faith's actual attitude, not the anthropomorphised one. (And yes, Ms. Stringfellow is certainly entitled to her projected notions. And she's a good person for taking on such a darling creature who so many people would have simply walked away from.)
Thanks GS. I find Faith to be an amazing and fascinating creature. I wasn't particularly concerned about the persons or their beliefs regarding the dog, although I'm pleased the Ms. Stringfellow's son and she had the mindset to rescue Faith.

In my experience, animals do have a self-awareness, but it's different than the awareness that humans have, and it appears to be species dependent.
 

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