Double overhanging beam deflection

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of a double overhanging beam, specifically focusing on determining the maximum slope and deflection. Participants are exploring the application of boundary and continuity conditions, as well as methods for evaluating shear and moment equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in applying boundary and continuity conditions to find the maximum slope and deflection of the beam.
  • Another participant presents a shear function using singularity functions and suggests integrating it to obtain the moment function, followed by applying the differential equation for deflection.
  • A repeated post reiterates the shear function and integration approach, indicating a method for determining constants of integration based on boundary conditions.
  • A participant questions the use of the singularity method and suggests that normal integration could also be messy, noting the need for matching integration constants across different segments of the beam.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in referencing the position of the beam segments when evaluating slopes, emphasizing the importance of correctly identifying the reference points for calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, with some favoring the singularity method while others suggest traditional integration techniques. There are also differing views on the correct referencing of positions in the equations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the application of boundary conditions and the handling of integration constants, which may depend on the specific definitions and assumptions made in the problem.

Mohmmad Maaitah
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Homework Statement
Derive an expression for the slope and deflection for the beam
Relevant Equations
Deflection of beams
Please help me finding the max slope and deflection im stuck on this problem for two weeks.
I can't get anywhere with the boundary and continutiy conditions
The problem and what I've d one:
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The shear ##V(x)## can be represented with the singularity function:

$$V(x) = -P+P\langle x - a \rangle^0 +P\langle x - (L-a) \rangle^0 $$

Then you can integrate that to get ##M(x)##

Then apply ## EI \frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = M(x) ##.

The boundary conditions on ##y## at ##x=a## and ##x = L-a## give you two equations and two unknowns to determine the integration constants ##C_\theta, C_y##
 
erobz said:
The shear ##V(x)## can be represented with the singularity function:

$$V(x) = -P+P\langle x - a \rangle^0 +P\langle x - (L-a) \rangle^0 $$

Then you can integrate that to get ##M(x)##

Then apply ## EI \frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = M(x) ##.

The boundary conditions on ##y## at ##x=a## and ##x = L-a## give you two equations and two unknowns to determine the integration constants ##C_\theta, C_y##
Thanks for the answer, how is it possible with the normal integration as I'm not familiar with the singularity method.
 
Mohmmad Maaitah said:
Thanks for the answer, how is it possible with the normal integration as I'm not familiar with the singularity method.
Its messy, but the idea is the same. You will have a bunch of integration constants to figure out. The is a distinct moment curve for each region of the beam between point loads with its own constants of integration in the deflection integration. They have to be all matched up with the boundary conditions on ##y## at a particular point and use the fact that we are not to have discontinuous slope between the segments.

I suggest you see this:

https://eng.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Mechanical_Engineering/Introduction_to_Aerospace_Structures_and_Materials_(Alderliesten)/02:_Analysis_of_Statically_Determinate_Structures/07:_Deflection_of_Beams-_Geometric_Methods/7.04:_Deflection_by_Method_of_Singularity_Function
 
Mohmmad Maaitah said:
Homework Statement: Derive an expression for the slope and deflection for the beam
Relevant Equations: Deflection of beams

Please help me finding the max slope and deflection im stuck on this problem for two weeks.
I can't get anywhere with the boundary and continutiy conditions
The problem and what I've d one:
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I think you are going wrong in evaluating the slope at the first support. You apparently have ##x_2 = a ## in the equation? ##x_2## should not be referenced from the free end ( where ##x_1## is referenced), it should be referenced from the beginning of the segment under consideration. So when you are equating ##EI \theta_1 = EI \theta_2 ## be wary of that (pay attention to the value ##x_2## should take in the ##\theta_2## equation at the first support).
 

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