Double Slit Experiment and Measurements

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The discussion revolves around the nature of measurements in quantum mechanics, particularly in the context of the double slit experiment and the role of beam splitters. Participants explore whether the reflection or transmission of a photon at a beam splitter constitutes a measurement and how different interpretations of quantum mechanics influence this understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that encountering a beam splitter does constitute a measurement, while others argue that it does not collapse the wave function and thus may not be a measurement in the traditional sense.
  • One participant notes that the context of the entire experiment is crucial in determining whether a measurement has occurred, highlighting the importance of subsequent actions with the beams.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that interpretations of quantum mechanics significantly affect the definition of measurement, proposing that a measurement should only be considered valid when data is recorded in a formal manner, such as in a scientific paper.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on whether the interaction with a beam splitter constitutes a measurement, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects various interpretations of quantum mechanics and the implications of measurement, with no resolution on the definitions or conditions under which a measurement occurs.

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When a photon encounters a beam splitter, say a half-silvered mirror, there is a 50-50 chance it will be reflected or passed (tunneling). Does being reflected/passed constitute a QM "measurement"?

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It could and generally would, but there are also cases where the results of the measurement are "erased". So you need to consider the entire context of the experiment.
 
referframe said:
When a photon encounters a beam splitter, say a half-silvered mirror, there is a 50-50 chance it will be reflected or passed (tunneling). Does being reflected/passed constitute a QM "measurement"?

Thanks in advance.

No, it's not a "measurement" in the sense that it doesn't collapse the wave function. The two alternate paths both have to be followed to account for the future behavior of the system. That's why you can later recombine the two beams and get interference.
 
referframe said:
When a photon encounters a beam splitter, say a half-silvered mirror, there is a 50-50 chance it will be reflected or passed (tunneling). Does being reflected/passed constitute a QM "measurement"?
It depends on the interpretation you choose to work in. Any interpretation that might include considering just being reflected or passed as a measurement, however, has to introduce very careful provisos that take into account what is done with the beams subsequently. In other words, the entire context of the experiment is ultimately important.

Personally, I prefer interpretations that take a measurement to have occurred only when a number has been written in a computer memory. Then a paper can be submitted to Physics Review Letters that says, "the raw measurement data (100MB) is available on a CD on request," and goes on to describe the statistical computations that were done using that data to show how well the data matches up with a proposed quantum mechanical model for the experiment. That sets the standard for measurement as "a PRL paper", in contrast to setting the standard for measurement as something like "it's in my head", or "it's in the head of someone who has a Ph.D" (which is a John Bell joke). I might be OK with a PRD paper as an arbiter of whether a measurement happened, for example, but perhaps not with a JMathPhys paper. Endless fun can be had deciding which journals' imprimatur is OK.
 

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