Double Slit Experiment: Measurement versus Observation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the double slit experiment, specifically focusing on the concepts of measurement and observation in quantum mechanics. Participants explore whether it is possible to monitor which slit a particle goes through while ensuring that the data is destroyed before any human can observe it, examining implications for interference patterns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the double slit experiment has been conducted where the data regarding which slit a particle passes through is destroyed before observation.
  • Another participant suggests that it may have occurred accidentally and discusses the implications of having which-path information present in the system, noting that this leads to the absence of an interference pattern.
  • A later reply elaborates on the concept of "observation" in quantum theory, stating that it refers to interaction with a system rather than human observation, indicating that the presence of which-path markers affects the outcome regardless of human knowledge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of measurement and observation in quantum mechanics, with no consensus reached regarding the specifics of the double slit experiment and the role of data destruction.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the definitions of measurement and observation, as well as the conditions under which interference patterns appear or disappear, highlighting the complexity and nuances in interpreting quantum phenomena.

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Measurement versus Observation
I'm curious if the double slit experiment has ever been done where the equipment is in place and enable to monitor which slit the particle goes through, but the data is destroyed before anyone ever sees it.
 
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Praxiteles said:
TL;DR Summary: Measurement versus Observation

I'm curious if the double slit experiment has ever been done where the equipment is in place and enable to monitor which slit the particle goes through, but the data is destroyed before anyone ever sees it.
It may have happened by accident!
 
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Praxiteles said:
TL;DR Summary: Measurement versus Observation

I'm curious if the double slit experiment has ever been done where the equipment is in place and enable to monitor which slit the particle goes through, but the data is destroyed before anyone ever sees it.
Depending on your exact definition of "data is destroyed before anyone ever sees it": The answer is yes. If the which slit information is present in the system, but without there being any detection mechanism whatsoever, then you see no interference pattern. The mere possibility of obtaining that information is enough to eliminate that. In the following experiment, which-path markers are placed on photons on the way to a screen. See figure 9, no DS interference. They then "erase" the marker, which then restores the interference pattern. See figure 10.

Young's double-slit experiment with single photons and quantum eraser

No human knowledge is required, because no human ever possesses any.
 
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You may have a misconception about what "observation" means in quantum theory. It means that the wave in question has interacted with something to give a result. Whether a human observed the interaction or result is irrelevant to the quantum theory.
 

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