Double Slit Experiment: Wave Interference & Particle Like Patterns

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the double slit experiment, focusing on wave interference patterns and particle-like behavior when one slit is closed. Participants explore concepts related to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the nature of measurements, and the implications of entanglement in this context.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that closing one slit results in a particle-like pattern, while others argue that it does not recreate any observation but merely removes one path for the particle.
  • One participant questions whether closing a slit measures the particle's position, suggesting that this could randomize its momentum and lead to different colored photons hitting the photographic plate.
  • Another participant emphasizes that with one slit open, the distribution of photons is spread out over a wide area, not concentrated in one spot, and that the width of the distribution remains similar regardless of whether one or both slits are open.
  • There is a discussion about the role of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in the interference pattern, with some participants questioning its relevance.
  • One participant mentions the delayed choice experiment and raises concerns about the implications of entangled photons and the "conscious observer" theory.
  • Another participant clarifies that entanglement arises from spontaneous parametric down-conversion (SPDC) and not from the double slit experiment itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of closing one slit, the nature of measurements, and the relevance of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives present.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various interpretations and explanations of the double slit experiment, including the delayed choice experiment and entanglement, indicating a range of assumptions and definitions that may not be universally accepted.

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Double split creates a wave interference pattern.

Closing up one slit creates a particle like pattern (all hitting one spot).

Does the closing up of one slit (allowing the particle to go through in only one narrow spot) measure its position (by the powers of Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle), then only allow the momentum (wavelength) to be random? If so, then are there different colored photons striking the photographic plate when one slit is closed?



^^And is this guy entangling another particle with his particle counter at the slit? I went online looking for that apparatus on his presentation and didn't find anything.
 
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Closing up one of the slits does not recreate any sort of observation.
You're merely removing one of the possible paths for the electron (or whatever particle you're experimenting on) to traverse; as a result, there are no longer the two possible states (and thus, no superposition of the wavefunction - which is what causes the interference).
 
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Double split creates a wave interference pattern.

Closing up one slit creates a particle like pattern (all hitting one spot).

Does the closing up of one slit (allowing the particle to go through in only one narrow spot) measure its position ...

You are missing a hugly significant point on the double slit.
With one slit open the “particle like pattern” does not have the photons “all hitting one spot”.
They are spread out over a wide area, bright in the center dim to the edges.
HOW wide is that area?, - just as wide and almost the same position as with just the other slit is open. So close to the same position you would need to run a very large number of photons through to determine the center of the “one slit spot” accurately enough to guess which of the two slits was actually open.
Also the width of both of these “spots” is just as wide as is covered when both slits are open. With both open it is also bright at the center dimming to the edges, only that width is broken up into a pattern of brighter and darker bands, instead of a smooth change from bright to dim. The area covered by the light does not change – only that it broken up into a bright & dark pattern when both slits are open vs. one slit.

That is clearly not understood by guy in your Youtube Link.

The poor folks at the church that received that YouTube Delayed Choice Quantum Erasure lecture got one of the worst explanations of Delayed Choice I have ever seen.

The speaker there has no clue whatever. Run a search in this forum for “delayed choice” and find a PDF link to a real DCQE experiment.
 
So the Heisenberg uncertainty principle isn't driving interference pattern? huh.

Ok, the delayed choice experiment. In the REAL experiment, it looks like another entangled photon is created at the slit. If that's the case then wouldn't the deletion of the entangled photon kind of clash with the "conscious observer" theory?
 
I have no clue what your talking about or what “driving” means.

On a screen behind a double slit with a long count of thousands of individual photon hits you find a ten inch wide collection of hits.

Smoothly distributed from end to end bright in the middle of the ten inch span:
one slit covered.
OR
Across the same ten inch span twice as many hits are found but displaying a pattern AKA interference pattern with the band in the center being the brightest:
Both slits open

Both distributions are well predicted by QM probabilistic formulas.
And in both cases the expect location of anyone photon hit is an “uncertainty” as defined by those probabilistic formulas. QM gives no certainty for the one.

Entanglement comes from SPDC’s not double slits, extra photons are not created as one goes through a double slit.
 

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