MHB Double summation: inner index = function of outer index

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The discussion focuses on a double summation where the inner index M(x) is a function of the outer index x, complicating the analytical definition of M. The relationship between y and x is established as y varying from 1 to M(x), illustrated with an example where M(x) equals x + 1. For specific values of x, the inner summation expands accordingly, demonstrating how the total sum accumulates terms based on the varying limits of y. Participants explore whether there are methods to simplify or solve the expression given the complexity of M(x). The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in defining M(x) to facilitate further analysis.
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Here N, a, and b are integer constants. M is also an integer but changes for every value of x, which makes the index of the second summation dependent on the first. The problem is the relationship M(x) is analytically difficult to define. Is there a way to solve/simplify this expression?
 
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There must be a relation between y and x according to[ which as the value of x varies, y will vary, so would M(x).
No, the only "relation" between y and x is the stated one- that y goes from 1 to M(x). For example,
$\sum_{x= 1}^3\sum_{y= 1}^{x+ 1} F(x, y)$ where "M(x)" is "x+ 1".

For x= 1 y goes from 1 to 2- the inner sum is F(1, 1)+ F(1, 2).
For x= 2 y goes from 1 to 3- the inner sum is F(2, 1)+ F(2, 2)+ F(2, 3).
For x= 3 y goes from 1 to 4- the inner sum is F(3, 1)+ F(3, 2)+ F(3, 3)+ F(3, 4).
$\sum_{x= 1}^3\sum_{y= 1}^{x+ 1} F(x, y)$= F(1, 1)+ F(1, 2)+ F(2, 1)+ F(2, 2)+ F(2, 3)+ F(3, 1)+ F(3, 2)+ F(3, 3)+ F(3, 4).
 
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