Dr. Watson and German secret Club

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The discussion revolves around a riddle involving Dr. Watson attempting to enter a secret club in Germany, where the bouncer requires a password based on a pattern related to the German language. Participants explore the logic behind the password system and the implications of language on the riddle's solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the password is related to the number of letters in the German words for the numbers given by the bouncer.
  • One participant proposes that if the bouncer says "18," the response should be based on the number of letters in "achtzehn," leading to a password of "neun" (9) since it has 4 letters.
  • Another participant questions whether the bouncer says "eighteen" or "achtzehn," and how that affects the responses of the other club entrants.
  • Some participants express frustration with the riddle, indicating a lack of clarity or satisfaction with the solution process.
  • A later reply introduces an alternative approach using English spellings of numbers, suggesting that it could yield different insights or solutions.
  • One participant notes that the riddle could be adjusted to require a closer match to half the number of letters, indicating a preference for a more structured solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct password or the logic behind the riddle. There are multiple interpretations and proposed solutions, leading to ongoing debate.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the language and structure of the riddle remain unresolved, particularly regarding the implications of using German versus English spellings and the criteria for determining the correct response.

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Dr. Watson is going to pay a visit to a secret club in Germany. There is a bouncer at the door, that will only let people woh have the correct passwords in.

Dr. Watson is clever so he listens to what a couple of people are saying to get in.

Bouncer: 18
Person 1: 9
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Bouncer: 16
Person 2: 8
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When Dr. Watson goes up to the bouncer and the bouncer says:
14. Dr. Watson replies with confidence: 7

The bouncer slaps Dr. Watson over the head and tells him that that was the wrong password. What should Dr. Watson have said to be let in?

Hint: Think German
 
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Mattara said:
What should Dr. Watson have said to be let in?
Hint: Think German

Hm. I think I need more hints.

If it was in England or the US, I'd guess maybe he should have said '9', since you could say that it's the number of letters in the word, plus 1 (18 has 8 letters, so 9 is correct, and 16 has 7 letters, so 8 would be correct, and 14 does NOT have 6 letters, so 7 is NOT correct). And of course the german spellings of 18, 16, and 14 all have 8 letters.

Does the bouncer say "eighteen"? Or "achtzehn"? Likewise, does the first admittee say "nine", "nein", or "neun"? If "nein", then what does the 2nd admittee say? (dunno how to search for a phonetic comparision of the equivalent of "eight" in German).

DaveE
 
Dr. Watson is trying to gain access to German club. That is all the hints you will get.
 
So, any answer to this? I know *I've* given up.

DaveE
 
Mattara said:
Dr. Watson is going to pay a visit to a secret club in Germany. There is a bouncer at the door, that will only let people woh have the correct passwords in.

Dr. Watson is clever so he listens to what a couple of people are saying to get in.

Bouncer: 18
Person 1: 9
---------------
Bouncer: 16
Person 2: 8
--------------

When Dr. Watson goes up to the bouncer and the bouncer says:
14. Dr. Watson replies with confidence: 7

The bouncer slaps Dr. Watson over the head and tells him that that was the wrong password. What should Dr. Watson have said to be let in?

Hint: Think German

Solution in invisible color:

The secret code is to say the german number that half the number of the german word for what the bouncer said:

18 - Achtzehn = 8 letters
9 - Neun = 4 letters


16 - Sechzehn = 8 letters
8 - Acht = 4 letters

14 - Vierzehn = 8 letters
7 - Sieben = 6 letters

Answer: Watson should have told the bouncer any german letter that has 4 letters.[/color]
Hint: It is all about German.
 
Oh. Ok.

In the future, I might try this example with English spellings, since they offer a few more examples with differing letters:

12 = twelve = 6 letters, half is 6 = six = 3 letters
18 = eighteen = 8 letters, half is 9 = nine = 4 letters
20 = twenty = 6 letters, half is 10 = ten = 3 letters

It's still kind of silly that you can answer *anything* with a certain number of letters-- might be better if you had it be the closest number to half of the given number with half the letters of the given number, and prefer higher. Hence:

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Watson overhears:
Bouncer: 18
Person1: 9

Bouncer: 12
Person2: 6

Bouncer: 20
Person3: 10

Bouncer: 14
Watson (thinking divide by 2): 7 (NO! should've said 9)

Further hints, as needed:

Bouncer: 24
Person4: 8

Bouncer: 30
Person5: 10

Bouncer: 42
Watson (thinking now divide by 3): 14 (NO! should've said 9 again!)

DaveE
 
That is an entirly different brani teaser :) Feel free to post that in a alone topic if you wish.
 

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