Dynamics of Particles : Problems involving pulleys.

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two particles, P and Q, connected by a string over a pulley, with a focus on the dynamics of the system when the string breaks. The context is within the subject area of dynamics, specifically dealing with forces, motion, and free fall.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration and the distance moved by particle Q before the string breaks. There are questions about the implications of the string breaking and how to approach the subsequent free fall of particle P.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on determining the initial conditions for particle P after the string breaks, while others are seeking clarification on the calculations and assumptions made regarding the height and initial velocity. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the method to find the time until P hits the floor.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are questioning the application of kinematic equations in the context of the string breaking. There is uncertainty regarding the correct values to use in the equations.

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Homework Statement



Two particles P and Q of masses 1 kg and 2kg respectively are hanging vertically from the ends of a light inextensible string which passes over a smooth fixed pulley. The system is released from rest with both particles a distance of 1.5 m above a floor. When the masses have been moving for 0.5s the string breaks. Find the further time that elapses before P hits the floor.


Homework Equations



2g - T = 2a
T- g = a
s=ut+1/2at^2


The Attempt at a Solution


First, I found the acceleration of the two the particles, and then found the distance particle Q moves in the 0.5seconds. Then, added this distance to 1.5m as it summed up to be the distance that P had to cover in order to hit the floor. But I couldn't proceed to solve the rest of the sum as I don't understand the string breakage theory. Help, anyone?
 
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tbh i think you've done the hard part. so now you know how high P is above the floor when the string breaks. now P is in freefall. so its acceleration is 9.8 m/s^2, you've already calculated the height above the floor it is at and you only need one more thing to be able to find the time and that would be its initial velocity. you can find using v^2=u^2+2as and the values from the 1st part.
 
Tried that way, but the answer doesn't match. The answer is 0.813 seconds...
 
Can you show all of your work? Did you use the height of P above the floor for the "s" in v^2=u^2+2as, or did you use the distance for which P accelerated (which is height-1.5 m)?
 

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