Struggling to Understand Pulley System Dynamics

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the dynamics of a pulley system, specifically focusing on the forces acting on consecutive pulleys and the relationships between tensions in the strings. The original poster expresses difficulty in summing the forces and modeling the system correctly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to model the forces acting on each pulley but struggles with the correct relationships between tensions. Participants raise questions about the tension in the strings connected to the pulleys and how they interact with each other.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about the tension in the strings and exploring the relationships between different pulleys. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly sum the forces and interpret the setup, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific problem number (3.30) and a reference to the number of pulleys (N), indicating that the discussion is framed within a particular homework context. The original poster notes a struggle with the problem despite being able to solve differential equations, highlighting a potential gap in understanding the mechanics of the pulley system.

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Homework Statement



it is Problem 3.30.

Homework Equations


I am not sure how to sum the forces about each consecutive pulley I have been at this for 4 hours now. It is sad I can solve the DE questions and not this.

The Attempt at a Solution


I had the first pulley at the top as (where y is dv/dt)
-T+mg=my1

Then I figured if i did it with just one extra pulley I could model the rest how ever it is not correct.

-2T+mg=-my2 (as i set the up direction to be negative and this mass would go up)

Then with two pulleys with the string under it I had either

-3T+mg=-ma or -4T+mg=-my2

What I don't get is how the tension from each consecutive pulley connected to the center of the one above it will effect the system.
 
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The curve of the page makes the end of one line (the number of pulleys) illegible.

Just consider one of the pulleys with the string passing beneath it. If the tension in the string going up from its right is Tn, what is the tension in the string going up from its left hand side? What is the tension in the string going down from its centre?
 
it says consider N pulleys. so the tension of the one come out of the center would be the sum of the two above it? then string to the left would be just T?
 
JoshW said:
it says consider N pulleys. so the tension of the one come out of the center would be the sum of the two above it? then string to the left would be just T?
Right. So let the tension in the string passing under the nth pulley be Tn. What is the relationship between Tn and Tn+1?
 

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