Dynamics: rogid bodies force and acceleration

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The discussion centers on the dynamics of rigid bodies, specifically the calculation of angular acceleration (\alpha) using the moment of inertia (IG) and the parallel axis theorem. The user initially calculated \alpha as 7.3575 rad/s² by taking moments about point A, but the correct value is 14.7 rad/s² when moments are taken about the center of mass (G). The confusion arises from the incorrect application of the formula \(\sum Ma=(IG+m(rG)^2)\) and the misunderstanding of the relationship between linear acceleration and angular acceleration, particularly the distance to the center of rotation.

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Homework Statement



[PLAIN]http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1063/1763o.jpg

Homework Equations



IG = (1/12)ml^2
\sum Ma=(IG+m(rG)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I take the moment about A, which gives me the following:
(4kg)(9.81m/s^2)(1m)=((1/12)(4kg)(2m)^2+(4kg)(1m)^2)\alpha
\alpha = 7.3575 rad/s^2

But in the solutions they have: \alpha = 14.7 rad/s^2, which is 2 times more. They are taking the moment about G, using Fa = (1/2)(4kg)(9.81m/s^2). Why does it yield a different answer? The way I do it must be wrong, but I don't see why.

Also they have (aG)y = 4.905m/s^2, but I though that (aG)y = rG*\alpha, and rG = 1m in this case, so (aG)y must be equal to \alpha

What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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Honestly, I don't understand this formula:
\sum Ma=(IG+m(rG)^2)
 
hi etotheix! :smile:
etotheix said:
I take the moment about A …

no, you can't do that, the Iω formula for https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=313" about either the centre of mass or the centre of rotation …

A is neither :redface:

(because A will start accelerating upwards as soon as the string is cut)
Also … I though that (aG)y = rG*\alpha, and rG = 1m in this case, so (aG)y must be equal to \alpha

no, a = rα assumes that r is the distance to the centre of rotation, and (again) that isn't A, so it isn't :wink:

you'll need to use the https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=189" force, before and after (just call it F)
Quinzio said:
Honestly, I don't understand this formula:
\sum Ma=(IG+m(rG)^2)


it's the parallel axis theorem in disguise :biggrin:
 
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Thank you very much tiny-tim! It is very clear now.
 

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