Dynamics of a Block on top of a slab with friction between them

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Thermofox said:
Now can I say that ##W_{\text{friction}}= \Delta l \mu_d g m_b##?
Yes.
Thermofox said:
I'm not sure because the work is done on 2 surfaces that are moving.
Depending on the frame of reference you choose, you could consider that the block moves ##x## one way and the slab moves ##\Delta l-x## the other way. So the block does work ##\mu_kxm_bg## against friction while the slab does work ##\mu_k(\Delta l-x)m_bg## against friction. The total work done against friction is always ##\mu_k\Delta lm_bg##.
Thermofox said:
But what would happen when the block falls from the slab.
You understand that you do not need to consider that, right?
Thermofox said:
Is our system still valid or as soon as they detach, they can no longer be considered as a system?
A system is whatever you define it to be.
Certainly it will behave differently after detachment.
 
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Thermofox said:
But what would happen when the block falls from the slab. Is our system still valid or as soon as they detach, they can no longer be considered as a system?
The question does not ask about what happens when the block falls from the slab. It wants the velocities at the moment before this happens.
 
haruspex said:
You understand that you do not need to consider that, right?
Yeah, I perfectly do. I was just a thought I had, nothing more.
haruspex said:
Depending on the frame of reference you choose, you could consider that the block moves ##x## one way and the slab moves ##\Delta l-x## the other way. So the block does work ##\mu_kxm_bg## against friction while the slab does work ##\mu_k(\Delta l-x)m_bg## against friction. The total work done against friction is always ##\mu_k\Delta lm_bg##.
Ok now I understand it, Thank you immensely!
 
Steve4Physics said:
The question does not ask about what happens when the block falls from the slab. It wants the velocities at the moment before this happens.
Yeah I do realize that, It was just an "if case" I had.