E Field at Point P w/ Line Charge & Closed Surface

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at a specific point due to a line charge and analyzing the electric flux through various surfaces surrounding the charge. The problem involves concepts from electrostatics, particularly Gauss's Law and the properties of electric fields and flux.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between electric flux and the amount of charge within a closed surface, referencing Gauss's Law. There are attempts to clarify the symmetry of the surfaces involved and how it affects the flux distribution. Some participants question the interpretation of electric field versus electric flux.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem, with some participants providing insights into the nature of electric flux and its independence from distance. While there are attempts to guide understanding, no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the calculations or the final answers.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying Gauss's Law and understanding the symmetry of the problem setup. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion between electric field and flux concepts, which may affect the discussion.

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1.In the diagram below, find the E field at point P.What is E when L is infinity
2.A closed surface is made up of three surfaces,S1 being circular , S2 being cylindrical, and S3 being conical.A line charge of length L and density (D) is placed symmetrically with respect to S2 as shown.If the flux through S3 is (D*L)/(8*Eo),find the flux through S2
 
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Hi, do you still remember what Dr. Cheng taught about the nature of electric flux and Gauss's Law? It is INDEPENDENT of the distance from the charges but only dependent on the AMOUNT of charges inside the closed surface. So when you look at S3, it has the same amount of flux as the base surface as S1. Because they are symmetrical, they are the same. Remember the total charge inside the whole surface is equal to lambda times l, so the TOTAL flux is equal to (lambda)(l)/epsilon zero). You see S3 shares (1/8) of the total flux, and so as S1, so S2 shares (1-(1/8)-(1/8))( (lambda)(l)/epsilon zero) ) flux, which is equal to (3/4) of the total flux. Always remember flux is like air blown out from the charge. Good luck on your assignment!

Sorry, I confused the concept of electric field and flux, Always remember "electric field lines" is like air blown out from positive charges, and electric flux then is what the amount of air is in terms of cubic meters per second.

P.S. We are perhaps in the same class.
 
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Narold said:
Hi, do you still remember what Dr. Cheng taught about the nature of electric flux and Gauss's Law? It is INDEPENDENT of the distance from the charges but only dependent on the AMOUNT of charges inside the closed surface. So when you look at S3, it has the same amount of flux as the base surface as S1. Because they are symmetrical, they are the same. Remember the total charge inside the whole surface is equal to lambda times l, so the TOTAL flux is equal to (lambda)(l)/epsilon zero). You see S3 shares (1/8) of the total flux, and so as S1, so S2 shares (1-(1/8)-(1/8))( (lambda)(l)/epsilon zero) ) flux, which is equal to (3/4) of the total flux. Always remember flux is like air blown out from the charge. Good luck on your assignment!
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