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E=mc^2 vs energy in strong interaction

  1. Jan 20, 2015 #1
    Hi everyone,

    I have a simple and foolish question.

    I want to compare the energy of a given mass (obviously e=mc2); lets say the energy of a hydrogen atom, with the energy that binds together the fundamental particles of that atom (strong interaction). I know that e=mc2 holds always true, and that the energy in strong interaction is undrainable, but do total energy of strong interaction (in a particular case) could be more or less than the energy you get when transforming mass to energy?

    I know I'm confused and possibly both are the same, but appreciate an explanation.
     
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  3. Jan 20, 2015 #2

    mathman

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    The strong interaction holds three quarks together to form a proton. What mass are you converting to energy?
     
  4. Jan 20, 2015 #3
    hydrogen atom, 1 proton...
     
  5. Jan 20, 2015 #4
    Maybe I don't understand the question. But I'll try to answer.

    An ionised hydrogen atom is a proton. This is held together by the strong force and quantitatively speaking this is a 3 quark bound state.

    Although the idea of individual quark masses is a bit misleading (they always come in bound States), the effective mass of the up and down quarks is ~5 MeV. While the proton is 1 GeV. You could attribute this difference to the strong force.

    Alternatively, do you mean the energy taken to expel a valence electron compared to the macroscopic strong force of a few bound nuclei? For example the energy required to fission a He nuclei out of a larger atomic mass nuclei?
     
  6. Jan 21, 2015 #5

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    atom= bound states of charged nuclei with charged electrons... charged= electrically charged and the energy of interaction comes from the electromagnetic interactions...
    nuclei= bound states of protons and neutrons ... mainly by strong interactions for large distances/low energies (where the mesonic effective field theories hold)
    protons= bound states of quarks and gluons...

    And in general the relation [itex]E=mc^2[/itex] does not hold when you have interactions too, at least not in the same way - because you have to take into account the energy from the interactions... In QFT framework, the mass of such a system should get corrections from calculating further Feynman Diagrams.
     
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