How Do You Determine Position as a Function of Time from Acceleration?

[MotoPayton]

say your are giving the acceleration as a=2x and you know it has an initial velocity of 5m/s at x=0,t=0
How the heck do you find the position as function of time??
It seems so simple but really has me stumped. It must be possible.

I have played around with vdv=ads and integrated trying to unlock time..

 

[SammyS]

say you are given the acceleration as a=2x and you know it has an initial velocity of 5m/s at x=0,t=0
How the heck do you find the position as function of time??
It seems so simple but really has me stumped. It must be possible.

I have played around with vdv=ads and integrated trying to unlock time..

Write \ a=2x\ as \displaystyle\ \frac{dv}{dt}=2x\ .

Then use the chain rule to write \displaystyle\ \frac{dv}{dt}\ as \displaystyle\ \frac{dv}{dx}\,\frac{dx}{dt}\,,\ but realize that \displaystyle\ \frac{dx}{dt}=v\ .

That leaves you with a separable differential equation with variables, x and v .

 

[MotoPayton]

Write \ a=2x\ as \displaystyle\ \frac{dv}{dt}=2x\ .

Then use the chain rule to write \displaystyle\ \frac{dv}{dt}\ as \displaystyle\ \frac{dv}{dx}\,\frac{dx}{dt}\,,\ but realize that \displaystyle\ \frac{dx}{dt}=v\ .

That leaves you with a separable differential equation with variables, x and v .

Ya I agree, and once you separate variables and integrate you can obtain v=sqrt(2*x^2+25)
That leaves me no closer to finding the position as function of time...

 

[SammyS]

Ya I agree, and once you separate variables and integrate you can obtain v=sqrt(2*x^2+10)
That leaves me no closer to finding the position as function of time...

That's not quite right.

It gives v = √(10) when x = 0 .

Once you fix that, remember, \displaystyle\ v=\frac{dx}{dt}\ .

 

[MotoPayton]

That's not quite right.

It gives v = √(10) when x = 0 .

Once you fix that, remember, \displaystyle\ v=\frac{dx}{dt}\ .

My bad I meant to write 25. My initial question was asking for the position as a function of time as the particle moves down the positive x-axis given the specific initial conditions stated above.
I don't care about the velocity as a function of x nor the velocity at x=0. Those are all easily obtainable..

 

[MotoPayton]

I am going to move this post to advanced physics. Please don't get mad at me moderators as I think there is a simple solution to this.

 

[MotoPayton]

Hardest problem that I can't figure out...

say your are giving the acceleration as a=2x and you know it has an initial velocity of 5m/s at x=0,t=0
How the heck do you find the position as function of time??
It seems so simple but really has me stumped. It must be possible.

Moderator's Note: Multiple threads merged​

 

[TSny]

The trick is to use the chain rule to write a = dv/dt = dv/dx $\cdot$ dx/dt = v dv/dx.

See if you can use this to find v as a function of x. Then see if you can figure out a way to determine x as a function of t.

 

[Pengwuino]

Are you familiar with differential equations? Are you sure it's not a(t) = 2t? If you really mean a(t)= 2x(t), then you have a second order differential equation.

 

[MotoPayton]

Are you familiar with differential equations? Are you sure it's not a(t) = 2t? If you really mean a(t)= 2x(t), then you have a second order differential equation.

oh my god I am such an idiot for not recognizing the diffeq... Thank you
I will put my head in a hole now

 

[MotoPayton]

This thread can be deleted

 

[SammyS]

My bad I meant to write 25. My initial question was asking for the position as a function of time as the particle moves down the positive x-axis given the specific initial conditions stated above.
I don't care about the velocity as a function of x nor the velocity at x=0. Those are all easily obtainable..

As I said, \displaystyle\ \frac{dx}{dt}=v\ .

That gives you the differential equation:

\displaystyle\ \frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{2\,x^2+25\,\ .}​

... and you should care about the velocity at x=0 . That's one of your boundary conditions.

 

[TSny]

Yes, if you are familiar with 2nd order differential equations, Pengwuino's suggestion is the way to go. My suggestion involves solving a couple of first-order differential equations using separation of variables and takes more steps. Not as good.