Easy collision problem I keep getting wrong

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The discussion revolves around a collision problem involving two cars in a parking lot, focusing on the calculation of total system momentum before the collision. The subject area is physics, specifically the concept of momentum as a vector quantity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the momentum of two cars moving at right angles to each other, converting their speeds and multiplying by mass. They express confusion over a discrepancy between their result and the book's answer. Some participants suggest considering the vector nature of momentum and using the Pythagorean theorem to find the resultant momentum.

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The discussion has progressed with participants providing guidance on the vector nature of momentum and suggesting methods to resolve the original poster's confusion. There is an acknowledgment of the need to apply vector addition for perpendicular vectors, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

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The original poster notes a lack of clarity in their textbook regarding the application of the Pythagorean theorem to momentum vectors, which has contributed to their misunderstanding.

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1. "Consider a minor parking-lot accident. Car A backs out at 30 cm/s toward the west, and Car B looks for a place to park, driving north at 40 cm/s. Both cars mass 1,000 kg. What is the total system momentum before the collision? Remember that momentum is a vector quantity. Also, be careful with your units."



2. Momentum= Mass * Velocity



3. First, I convert 30 cm/s and 40 cm/s to m/s, which gets me .3 m/s and .4 m/s. Then, I multiply mass and velocity together and I get 400 kg*m/s for Car B and 300 kg*m/s for Car A. I combine the momentums to get 700 kg*m/s in a NW direction. The book, however, says 500 kg*m/s is the correct answer (without explanation). Can anyone help? I'm just starting out, trying to learn basic physics on my own.
 
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Hi SoulInNeed, welcome to PF.
In the problem they have instructed to remember that the momentum is a vector.
The two cars are moving at right angle to each other. So their momentum are perpendicular to each other. So what is the resultant of two vectors which are perpendicular to each other?
 
The important trick here is in the question itself. Momentum is a vector -- draw the momenta out as vectors if you like and the answer should pop out.
 
Thanks guys, I got it. Use the Pythagorean to find it.

I've learned a lesson, I need to use a better book to teach me this. This one made no mention of using the Pythagorean theorem when dealing with perpendicular vectors, and I had no idea you could do that in momentum vectors. I got to get a textbook, lol.
 

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