Easy Conservation of Energy Problem

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A skier with a mass of 55.0 kg slides down an 11.7 m slope, experiencing a kinetic friction force of 41.5 N. The initial speed is 0.657 m/s, and the final speed at the bottom is 7.19 m/s. The conservation of energy approach is used to relate gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy, but the calculation for the angle θ is causing confusion. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding how friction affects energy loss, particularly noting that the angle φ for friction is typically 0 when opposing motion. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity on vector components in future problems involving friction.
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Homework Statement


A skier of mass 55.0 kg slides down a slope 11.7 m long, inclined at an angle θ to the horizontal. The magnitude of kinetic friction is 41.5 N. The skier's initial speed is 65.7 cm/s (0.657 m/s) and the speed at the bottom of the slope is 7.19 m/s. Determine the angle θ from the law of conservation of energy. Air resistance does not matter.


Homework Equations


Ek = 1/2*m*v^2
Eg = mgh
Ethermal = W = Fk*cosθ*Δd

The Attempt at a Solution


Eth= Fk*cosθ*Δd
Substituted in the values, then used conserv. of energy:
mgh + 1/2*mv^2 = 1/2*mv^2 + Eth
where h = 11.7/sinθ.
But I got stuck solving for the angle. Where did I go wrong?
 
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I think the work from the kinetic friction is taken over the length of the incline because the cosφ relative to the motion of the skier is 0, along the plane of the slope, not the angle θ of the incline.

Otherwise, I think you have the right idea.
 
That's true. But in what cases would cosφ not be equal to 0, for future questions like this?

Thanks.
 
BioBabe91 said:
That's true. But in what cases would cosφ not be equal to 0, for future questions like this?

Thanks.

For friction I'd guess that the angle φ is usually always 0, if it acts against the direction of motion. Now on circular motion problems, friction that would be say keeping a car from sliding down an incline would contribute no energy loss because there the friction would be at 90°

Work = F ⋅ D

(which is the dot product if you are familiar with vectors)
 
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