Easy Conservation of Energy Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a skier sliding down an inclined slope, with a focus on applying the law of conservation of energy to determine the angle of the slope. The scenario includes factors such as mass, initial and final speeds, and kinetic friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy principles but encounters difficulty in solving for the angle θ. Participants discuss the role of kinetic friction and its relation to the angle of incline.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of the angle φ in relation to the direction of friction and its impact on energy loss. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's approach, with some guidance offered regarding the interpretation of angles in the context of work done by friction.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of air resistance being negligible, and the discussion touches on the potential confusion regarding angles in different scenarios, particularly in circular motion versus linear motion.

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Homework Statement


A skier of mass 55.0 kg slides down a slope 11.7 m long, inclined at an angle θ to the horizontal. The magnitude of kinetic friction is 41.5 N. The skier's initial speed is 65.7 cm/s (0.657 m/s) and the speed at the bottom of the slope is 7.19 m/s. Determine the angle θ from the law of conservation of energy. Air resistance does not matter.


Homework Equations


Ek = 1/2*m*v^2
Eg = mgh
Ethermal = W = Fk*cosθ*Δd

The Attempt at a Solution


Eth= Fk*cosθ*Δd
Substituted in the values, then used conserv. of energy:
mgh + 1/2*mv^2 = 1/2*mv^2 + Eth
where h = 11.7/sinθ.
But I got stuck solving for the angle. Where did I go wrong?
 
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I think the work from the kinetic friction is taken over the length of the incline because the cosφ relative to the motion of the skier is 0, along the plane of the slope, not the angle θ of the incline.

Otherwise, I think you have the right idea.
 
That's true. But in what cases would cosφ not be equal to 0, for future questions like this?

Thanks.
 
BioBabe91 said:
That's true. But in what cases would cosφ not be equal to 0, for future questions like this?

Thanks.

For friction I'd guess that the angle φ is usually always 0, if it acts against the direction of motion. Now on circular motion problems, friction that would be say keeping a car from sliding down an incline would contribute no energy loss because there the friction would be at 90°

Work = F ⋅ D

(which is the dot product if you are familiar with vectors)
 

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