Effect of Non-Circular Orbits on Trigonometry Word Problems

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of assuming circular orbits in trigonometric calculations related to the orbits of Earth and Venus. Participants are exploring whether this assumption significantly impacts the results and where in the calculations the circularity is utilized.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the significance of the circular orbit assumption and its implications on the calculations. There are inquiries about the origin of the equations used and the specific angles involved in the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing guidance by posing questions that encourage deeper thinking about the relationships between variables and the implications of non-circular orbits. There is an ongoing exploration of how the assumptions affect the problem without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be a lack of complete information regarding the equations and angles used, which may be influencing the discussion. Participants are also referencing homework sheets that are not fully detailed in the thread.

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Homework Statement



The orbits of Earth and Venus are so close to being circles that on the scale of the diagram below, you would not be able to tell they were not circles.

a) Do you think the assumption that the orbits are circles has a significant effect on the result?
b) Where in the calculations did we use the fact the orbits are circles?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I have difficulty understanding this math problem.. can you guys help me? anyone?
what do i have to find?
 
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There must be more given information than what you have provided, where did you get your equations from? What is E1 and E2, where did you get the measure of the angle for the cos(x) in the equations?
 
Ah ha yeah I understand the question now, since I can not actually just give you the answer let me pose this question to you,

for 8 part a, you used the fact that both sets of variables such as s_{1} \;\; s_{2} \;\; e_{1} \;\; e_{2} \;\; v_{1} \;\; v_{2} etc actually have the same relations to one another, but in reality the orbits are not circles and thus not uniform, what does that tell you?

for 8 part b, it is kind of hard for me to come up with a way of saying this without giving it away but here is a question, when finding the two equations that described the two problems did you use information from one equation to complete the other? If they were not circles would you still have been able to do the operation that you did? (what I said in the prior paragraph could be carried over here.)
 

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