Effects of Accelerating Point Mass on Orbital Dynamics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the formulation of a line element for a free-falling observer in the context of an accelerating point mass solution within general relativity. Participants explore various coordinate systems, particularly Fermi Normal Coordinates, and the implications of such a model on orbital dynamics and the behavior of test particles in the vicinity of an accelerating mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using Kinnersley's photon rocket as a reference for modeling an accelerating mass, noting that a mass cannot accelerate without an external force, which necessitates modeling the exhaust.
  • Fermi Normal Coordinates are discussed as local coordinates for a free-falling observer, valid around the observer's world line, with references to their construction in various metrics.
  • There is a suggestion that the question may require clarification regarding whether global coordinates or specific solutions for an accelerating point mass are being sought.
  • One participant mentions the need for a non-isotropic emission of electromagnetic radiation from the point mass, suggesting that this could affect its mass-energy and influence the dynamics of nearby test particles.
  • Concerns are raised about the relevance of certain contributions, indicating a lack of consensus on the direction of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of coordinate systems versus solutions for an accelerating point mass, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear resolution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of acceleration and the energy sources involved, as well as the implications of using different coordinate systems, which are not fully resolved.

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Can we formulate a line element that describes a free falling observer in an accelerating point mass solution?
 
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If I understand the question correctly, the closest you can come is probably Kinnersley's photon rocket. Kinnersley, Phys Rev 186 (1969) - I don't know if it's online anywhere though.

A mass can't accelerate unless something pushes it, so you have to model the exhaust, too.

Carlip talks a little bit about this in another paper, http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9909087

and provides more references (other than Kinnersley) in
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/spr/2004-08/msg0062833.html
 
There exist the so called Fermi Normal Coordinates that are the local coordinates of a free fall observer in any spacetime. The coordinate system constructed is valid locally around the world line of the observer. It is inertial to zero order (spacetime is flat locally) and has first and higher order corrections from the Riemann tensor expressed in those coordinates.

Articles that show explicitly construction of such coordinates:

Explains what Fermi N. Coord. are, how they are constructed in general and gives example of construction in Schwarzschild metric:
"Fermi Normal Coordinates and Some Basic Concepts in Differential Geometry",
F. K. Manasse and C. W. Misner, Journal of Mathematical Physics, vol 4, num 6, 1963

Constructs Fermi N. Coord. in FRW cosmological metric:
"The Influence of the Cosmological Expansion on Local Systems", F. I. CooperStock, V. Faraoni, and D. N. Vollick, The Astrophysical Journal, 503, 61-66, 1998
 
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Thanks for replying smallphi, but I don't understand the relevance of what you write.
 
The Fermi normal coordinates are the physical local coordinates used by a free fall observer in arbitrary spacetime.

If you want global coordinates, one observer does not define an unique coordinate system so you will have to clarify your question.
 
Suggest some on-line references

pervect said:
If I understand the question correctly, the closest you can come is probably Kinnersley's photon rocket. Kinnersley, Phys Rev 186 (1969) - I don't know if it's online anywhere though.

It's probably worth adding that the Kinnersley-Walker photon rocket is a null dust solution.

The OP is in my ignore list, but FWIW searching the arXiv on "photon rocket" in abstract field gives several papers, all of which I have read; probably the best overview is in http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0203064

I have extensively discussed photon rockets (and other null dust solutions) in many posts over the years to the moderated UseNet group sci.physics.research. For example, the horizons are interesting since typically one has a (nonspherical) event horizon plus a disjoint (nonplanar) Rindler horizon.
 
smallphi said:
The Fermi normal coordinates are the physical local coordinates used by a free fall observer in arbitrary spacetime.

If you want global coordinates, one observer does not define an unique coordinate system so you will have to clarify your question.
But this is not a question about using certain coordinates it is about a solution for an accelerating point mass, call it an "accelerating Schwarzschild solution".
 
OK you are asking about a solution of Einstein eq. that describes an accelerating mass. It's interesting if such a solution contains the energy source accelerating the mass.

I thought you were asking how to construct a coordinate system adapted to a free fall observer in that spacetime.
 
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smallphi said:
OK you are asking about a solution of Einstein eq. that describes an accelerating mass. It's interesting if such a solution contains the energy source accelerating the mass.
Well it seems the point mass would need a non-isotropic emission of electromagnetic radiation. It seems that such an emission would reduce the mass-energy of the point mass.

My interest lies in how the acceleration of the point mass would influence the radial approach or orbit of a test particle.
 
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