Efficiently Solving a Complex System of Equations in Chemical Engineering

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The problem involves solving a system of equations related to a molecular balance in a chemical engineering context. The equations include multiple variables and are presented in a format that complicates the use of standard solving programs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the feasibility of solving the system for all unknowns, noting that some equations are dependent on others. There is a suggestion to express some variables in terms of a chosen fifth variable.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the limitations of the equations and the implications for solving them. There is recognition of the need to reconsider the equations' independence and how that affects the solution process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the equations may not provide enough independent information to solve for all variables numerically, leading to solutions expressed in terms of one variable. There is also mention of the challenges posed by the specific format of the equations in relation to available solving tools.

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Homework Statement



qa+2qb=10.158
4qa+6qb=200d
2qa+(7/2)qb=c
2qa+3qb=100d
3.76qc+100d=89.842

Solve for a,b,c,d,q

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I desperately want to avoid solving this system of equations by hand. This if for a chemical engineering class and solves a molecular balance of a chemical process. This seems soooo tedious, I would like to find a program to solve it. All of the solvers I have found seem to not work for equations where I have the unkowns multiplied by each other and will only let me equations like 5a + 6b ... not 5qa + 6bc ... HELP! Any suggestions?
 
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Well first of all, you can't solve this for numerical values for all 5 unknowns. That's because equations 4 and 2 differ by a factor of 2. Meaning to say your final answers for all the unknowns will be expressed in terms of one of these variables.

I have no college background in chemistry (only high school) so I can't help with the chemistry part, but you might want to double-check the question to see if you can come up with 5 equations which are not combinations of each other.
 
Yes, you really have only 4 independent equations. But that's plausible- there is no "one" answer to this- what ever the correct numbers for a molecule are, you could double them and get the same formulas for 2 molecules which must also satisfy these equations.

What you can do is solve the equations for 4 of the variables, in terms of the fifth. Then choose that fifth variable as the smallest integer that makes the other four variables integers.
 
Crud... that's why the program gave me the answer in terms of q. Thanks a lot, I didn't catch that.
 

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