Elastic Collision in Two Reference Frames

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum heights reached by two skateboarders after an elastic collision on a ramp. The skateboarders have masses of m1 = 48 kg and m2 = 55 kg, starting from a height of h = 4.70 m. The calculations involve using conservation of momentum and energy principles, with pre-collision momenta calculated as 460.8 kg·m/s for skater 1 and 528 kg·m/s for skater 2. The post-collision velocities are derived using the reduced mass and relative velocity, followed by determining the maximum heights using the equation h = v²/(2g).

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Homework Statement


1. Two skateboarders start from rest on opposite sides of a ramp like the one in the image, roll down and collide elastically on the level part of the ramp. The masses of the skateboarders are m1 = 48 kg and m2 = 55 kg and they both start from the height h = 4.70m. Ignoring any friction, calculate the maximum heights that each skateboarder reaches after the collision
(a) by performing the collision calculation in the laboratory frame
(b) by performing the collision calculation in the centre of momentum frame
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Homework Equations


Conservation of energy/momentum
1/2mv2 = mgh
mvi = mvf

The Attempt at a Solution


I worked out the velocity and momentum of each skater at the instant before they collide, thinking that I could then use normal conservation of momentum and energy to work out the same values for afterward, but as I reached this point I realized that I do not know how to proceed because I have no final values to substitute into the post-collision equation, so do not know how to proceed from here. In the lab frame I have calculated the pre-collision momentum of skater 1 to be 460.8kgm/s, and skater 2 to be 528kgm/s
 

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Velocity of both skateboarders on collison will be √(2gh). Both experience the same change in momentum Δp = 2μΔv (elastic collision) where μ is their reduced mass [m1*m2/(m1+m2)] and Δv is their relative velocity = 2√(2gh). Simply subtract Δp from the respective momentums and then divide by respective masses to obtain respective velocities. Finally use h = v^2/(2g).
 

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