Elastic Collision kinetic energy and momentum

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The discussion focuses on calculating the final velocities of two balls after a perfectly elastic collision. A 5.0 kg ball moving at 5.0 m/s collides head-on with a stationary 6.0 kg ball. The derived formulas for the final velocities are v1 = -5/11 m/s and v2 = 50/11 m/s, indicating that the first ball bounces backwards while the second ball moves forward. The discussion emphasizes using conservation of kinetic energy and momentum along with the equation of restitution for solving collision problems.

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Homework Statement



A ball of mass 5.0kg moving at a speed of 5.0m/s has a head on collision with a stationary bal of mass 6.0kg. If the collision were perfectly elastic what would be the speeds of the two balls after the collision?

Homework Equations



P = mv
KE = 0.5mv2

The Attempt at a Solution



Using together kinetic energy and momentum equations, I can solve for final velocities.

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Is this correct?
 
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The formulas for elastic collisions are:
v1 = u1(m1-m2)/(m1+m2)
v2 = 2m1u1/(m1+m2)

v1 = 5(5-6)/(6+5) = -5/11 m/s = -.45 m/s
v2 = (2*5*5)/(5+6) = 50/11 m/s = 4.5 m/s

So you got the right answers if you add a negative sign to v1 since it bounces backwards after the collision.
 
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Flashlinegame said:
The formulas for elastic collisions are:
v1 = u1(m1-m2)/(m1+m2)
v2 = 2m1u1/(m1+m2)

v1 = 5(5-6)/(6+5) = -5/11 m/s = -.45 m/s
v2 = (2*5*5)/(5+6) = 50/11 m/s = 4.5 m/s

So you got the right answers if you add a negative sign to v1 since it bounces backwards after the collision.
How do you know that the first ball will bounce backwards?
 
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fobbz said:

Homework Statement



A ball of mass 5.0kg moving at a speed of 5.0m/s has a head on collision with a stationary bal of mass 6.0kg. If the collision were perfectly elastic what would be the speeds of the two balls after the collision?

Flashlinegame said:
The formulas for elastic collisions are:
v1 = u1(m1-m2)/(m1+m2)
v2 = 2m1u1/(m1+m2)

v1 = 5(5-6)/(6+5) = -5/11 m/s = -.45 m/s
v2 = (2*5*5)/(5+6) = 50/11 m/s = 4.5 m/s

My advice would be not to rely on these formulas and use conservation of KE and momentum conservation and the equation of restitution ... with these 3 things you can solve nearly all collision problems.

PS:
KE Coservation: \frac{1}{2}{m_1u_1}^2 + \frac{1}{2}{m_2u_2}^2 = \frac{1}{2}{m_1v_1}^2 + \frac{1}{2}{m_2v_2}^2 - valid only when e=1

Momentum Conservation: m_1u_1 + m_2u_2 = m_1v_1 + m_2v_2 - valid for all e\in[0,1]

Eqn of coefficient of restitution: (v_2 - v_1) = e(u_1 - u_2)
 

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