Elastic collision problem, I to find the mistake

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The problem involves an elastic collision between two objects of equal mass in two dimensions. Object 1 has an initial velocity and object 2 is initially at rest. After the collision, Object 1's velocity is stated to be 3/5 of its initial velocity, and the goal is to determine the velocity of Object 2 after the collision in terms of Object 1's initial velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum and energy in the context of the collision. There are questions about the interpretation of the final speed of Object 1 and its implications for the collision dynamics.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the implications of the collision being elastic and two-dimensional, suggesting that the velocity components need to be considered. There is acknowledgment of a potential misunderstanding regarding the final speed of Object 1, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to consider both x and y components of velocity due to the nature of the collision being two-dimensional. There is also a mention of using energy conservation in addition to momentum conservation.

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Homework Statement



Two objects with equal masses undergo an elastic collision in 2 dimensions. Object 1 has an initial velocity u1 and object 2 is initially at rest. After the collision, object 1 is observed to have a velocity equal to 3/5 of it's initial velocity. What is the velocity of object 2 after the collision, v2, in units of u1?

The Attempt at a Solution



Let[/B]

m1 = m2 = m

initial speeds,
u1 = u1


u2 = 0

final speeds,

v1 = (3/5)*u1

v2 = ?

Apply conservation of momentum

m1*u1 + m2*u2 = m1*v1 + m2*v2

m*u1 + 0 = m*(3/5)*u1 + m*v2

u1 = (3/5)*u1 + v2

v2 = u1*(1- 3/5)

= (2/5)*u1 or 0.4*u1 <<<<<<<-----Answer (unfortunately it's wrong but I don't know why!)
 
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It is said that the collision is elastic and is two-dimensional- It should mean that the velocity of m1 is not parallel with the initial velocity. Check the original text if the final speed is 3/5 of the initial speed?
 
ehild said:
It is said that the collision is elastic and is two-dimensional- It should mean that the velocity of m1 is not parallel with the initial velocity. Check the original text if the final speed is 3/5 of the initial speed?
yes it's 3/5 of the initial speed
 
Assume that both objects have both x and y components and use energy conservation, too.
 

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