Speed of two charged particles repelling each other

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The discussion revolves around the kinetic energy of two charged particles, A and B, which are released from rest and repel each other due to their charges. The problem involves calculating the kinetic energy of particle B when the distance between the particles changes from 1.0 m to 3.0 m, given specific charge values.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between potential energy and kinetic energy, questioning the reasoning behind the distribution of energy between the two particles. There are discussions about the application of conservation laws and Newton's laws in this context.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the problem and the underlying physics principles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the forces acting on the particles and their equal mass, leading to insights about energy distribution.

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Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions made in the problem, particularly regarding the ratio of energy shared between the two particles and the implications of Newton's laws. There is a noted desire for deeper understanding rather than direct answers.

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Homework Statement


28. Particle A (mass = m, charge = Q) and B (mass = m, charge = 5 Q) are released from rest

with the distance between them equal to 1.0 m. If Q = 12 μC, what is the kinetic energy of

particle B at the instant when the particles are 3.0 m apart?

a . 8.6 J

b. 3.8 J

c. 6.0 J

d. 2.2 J

e. 4.3 J

Homework Equations


(delta (u) = delta ke

The Attempt at a Solution


(k*(Q*10^-6)*(5Q*10^-6))/1) - (k*(Q*10^-6)*(5Q*10^-6))/3) = 4.3152
4.3152 = u1 + u2 <-- I want u2 alone since the initial kinetic energy is zero
5u1 = u2
4.3152 = u1 + 5u1
4.3152 = 6u1
u1 = 0.7192
(5*0.7192) = 3.596 ~ 3.6 <-- not the right answer, it should be d

Any help, please?
 
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fight_club_alum said:
5u1 = u2
Why?
 
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I think because particle two will have a bigger share of the total potential; I am not sure
 
fight_club_alum said:
I think because particle two will have a bigger share of the total potential; I am not sure

What about Newton's second and third laws?
 
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fight_club_alum said:
I think because particle two will have a bigger share of the total potential; I am not sure
Maybe, but why in that ratio? Use conservation laws.
 
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PeroK said:
What about Newton's second and third laws?
Can you please just tell me how to correctly understand this problem because if I could understand it on my own I wouldn't have posted it in the first place?
Thank you
 
fight_club_alum said:
Can you please just tell me how to correctly understand this problem because if I could understand it on my own I wouldn't have posted it in the first place?
Thank you

##F = ma##

Is the force on each particle the same? Is the mass the same? What about acceleration? What about KE?
 
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PeroK said:
##F = ma##

Is the force on each particle the same? Is the mass the same? What about acceleration? What about KE?
Yes the forces should be the same
They both have the same mass
So They both should have the same acceleration and the same KE
I think I see the issue by now, so the total u should be divided by two
Thank you so much
 

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