Elastic collision, unknown masses & velocities, known displacements

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The problem involves an elastic collision between two blocks, A and B, where block A collides with block B, which is initially at rest. After the collision, block B falls off the table a distance "D" from the edge, while block A lands a distance of "2D" from the edge. The challenge lies in determining the masses and velocities of the blocks based on the given displacements.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the elastic nature of the collision and the relationship between the velocities of the blocks post-collision. There are inquiries about how to utilize the given information to derive the masses and velocities, as well as requests for tutorials or examples to aid understanding.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the principles of conservation of kinetic energy and momentum, suggesting that while ratios of speeds can be explored, the lack of numerical values limits the ability to reach a definitive answer. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of the problem's setup and assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem lacks sufficient information to derive numerical answers, highlighting the constraints imposed by the given displacements and the nature of the collision. There is also mention of the algebraic challenges faced by the original poster.

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I am struggling with a problem that I could really use some assistance on. The problem sounds simple enough, but I am lost. here it is:

Block A is on a frictionless table with block B. Block B is at rest, block A heads toward B and collides in an elastic collision. Block B falls off of the table a horizontal distance "D" from the edge of the table. Block A flies off the table in the opposite direction and lands a distance of "2D" from the edge of the table.

Block A seems to be much smaller than B due to the displacements and with no friction, I don't think the length of the table matters...If you know of an example or tutorial I could get help from that would also be appreciated. Thanks
 
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I don't see a question...just remember that by "elastic" it means there's no loss of KE, and since the time taken to reach the floor by both blocks will be equal, the speed of A will indeed be double the speed of B.
 
I need to show the masses and velocities of the blocks, but I don't know hoe to start the problem with the given information. I think I am struggling to grasp the algebra needed for this problem. Do you know of any tutorials similar to this one that I could compare or how to get started on the problem? Thanks.
 
You can work out ratios of speeds/velocities of course, but there's no way you can reach a numerical answer with the information you're given...

if you do want to pursue the ratios though i'd advice using the coefficient of restitution (elastic so e = 1) and the conservation of momentum equations.
 

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