Electric dipole moment in gaseous species.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining which gaseous species among NF3, BeF2, BCl3, KrF4, and SeO42- possess an electric dipole moment. Participants explore the relationship between molecular geometry and dipole moments.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Conceptual clarification, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that drawing representative structures may help identify the presence of an electric dipole moment.
  • Another participant questions how drawing structures could indicate dipole moments, using BeF2 as an example to illustrate their reasoning about charge distribution.
  • A further contribution explains that BeF2 is a linear molecule and prompts the determination of its net dipole moment based on its structure.
  • Participants are encouraged to apply Valence Bond Theory (VBT) and Valence Shell Electron Pair Repulsion (VSEPR) theory to analyze the molecular structures of the species in question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the method for determining electric dipole moments, and multiple viewpoints regarding the relevance of molecular structure remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding molecular geometry and charge distribution necessary for determining dipole moments.

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Homework Statement



Consider the following species in the gaseous state: NF_3, \ BeF_2, \ BCl_3, \ KrF_4 \ and \ SeO^{2-}_4.
Which of them have electric dipole moment?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried google, but I can't figure out how to check that..
 
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Can you draw their representative structures, like you draw tetrahedral structure for methane? That can give you the clue.
 
How is drawing the representative structures supposed to give me a clue on which species have electric dipole moment? Is it like, in the case with BeF_2, where Be is left with a positive charge of 2+ and each F with a negative charge of 1-. So it will have electric dipole moment?
 
Example to what I said:

BeF2 in gaseous form is a linear molecule, like F---Be---F, so the dipoles are F---Be and Be---F. Now can you determine the net dipole moment?

What I asked you is to draw the structures of molecules using VBT and VSEPR theory. Like in the case of NF3
320px-Nitrogen-trifluoride-2D-dimensions.png
 

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