Electric field at tip of uniformly charged cone

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The electric field at the tip of a uniformly charged cone diverges, as established through the analysis of the cone's geometry and charge distribution. The derivation involves breaking the cone into differential hoops, leading to the expression for the electric field, which integrates to infinity as the height approaches zero. This phenomenon is consistent with the behavior of electric fields at sharp tips, where the surface charge density is significantly higher. The discussion highlights the distinction between uniformly charged surfaces and conductors, emphasizing the role of curvature in electric field behavior.

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1. Find the electric field at the tip of a cone of height and radius R with uniform surface charge density \sigma.

I get that the field diverges at the tip, which is puzzling because it's not as though there's a point charge at the tip. I thought this sort of thing can't happen when you treat charge as smeared over a surface.


2. Homework Equations

The field from a hoop of radius z, charge q, at height z above the hoop center is

E_{hp} = \frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}z^2}.

The Attempt at a Solution



I break the cone into hoops of variable radius. Because it's a right cone, the distance from the tip to each differential hoop equals the radius -- very convenient. The charge on each hoop is

dq = 2\pi z \sigma ds = 2\pi z \sigma \sqrt{2} dz

where ds = \sqrt{2} dz is a differential arc length along the side of the cone.

Each hoop contributes to the field

dE = \frac{dq}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}z^2}

= \frac{2\pi z \sigma \sqrt{2} dz}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}z^2}

= \frac{\sigma}{4\epsilon_0} \frac{dz}{z},

and the field is then

\int dE = \int_0^R \frac{\sigma}{4\epsilon_0} \frac{dz}{z} = \left . \frac{\sigma}{4\epsilon_0} \ln z \right |_R^0,

which blows up at 0.

Correct? If so, what to make of it? Special surfaces can mimic point charges?
 
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Your derivation looks fine to me.

From what I remember, electric fields do diverge for sharp tips. In practice, a real "tip" will be rounded off, even if at the molecular scale. The actual field depends on the radius-of-curvature for the tip.

Still it seems a rather odd question to ask, which is essentially show that E is infinite for a particular sharp tipped object.
 
I've read that high fields arise at sharp tips of charged conductors because the surface charge density is much greater there. But since this is not a conductor but a uniformly charged surface, I'm not sure the two cases are actually related.

Your point about curvature is very interesting. I'll look into that. Thanks and thank you for checking my derivation!
 
check Jackson pg 104
 
musemonkey said:
But since this is not a conductor but a uniformly charged surface, I'm not sure the two cases are actually related.
That is correct. However, a sharp tip is still a sharp tip, and the electric field will basically be pointing away from the surface, so it must spread out from that point.

I agree, this is a strange question to ask.
 

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