Electric Field of a Non-Uniformly Charged Sphere | Homework Help

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The problem involves calculating the electric field of a solid isolated sphere with a non-uniform charge density given by ρ = Ar², where A is a constant and r is the radial distance from the center of the sphere. The discussion focuses on deriving expressions for the electric field both inside and outside the sphere.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the spherically symmetrical charge density and reference Gauss's law as a potential approach. There is an exploration of setting up integrals to find the total charge and how it relates to the electric field.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to set up the necessary integrals and clarifying the definitions of variables. There is a recognition of the need to correctly express the total charge in terms of the charge density, and some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Gauss's law.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of integrals and the notation used for variables. Participants are also navigating language barriers and expressing gratitude for assistance.

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Homework Statement


A solid isolated sphere with radius R has a non uniform charge which is given by ρ= Ar²,
with A a constant and r<R measured from the centre of the sphere

Homework Equations


(a) Show that the electric field outside the sphere is equal to E = (AR5)/(5ε0r²)
(b) Show that the electric field inside the sphere is equal to E = (AR3)/5ε0)

The Attempt at a Solution


No attempt, I am completely clueless about what to do here.
Pardon my english, not a native speaker.
 
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Hello Dg, :welcome:

Your english is just fine and certainly good enough to read the guidelines . There you will find that we can't help unless you make an effort.

As a welcoming gesture: did you notice the charge density is spherically symmetrical :rolleyes: ? And does that remind you of a useful theorem named after a long-dead german genius :wink: ?
 
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Hello Dg, :welcome:

Your english is just fine and certainly good enough to read the guidelines . There you will find that we can't help unless you make an effort.

As a welcoming gesture: did you notice the charge density is spherically symmetrical :rolleyes: ? And does that remind you of a useful theorem named after a long-dead german genius :wink: ?

Yes i know it's somthing to do with Gausses law, Φ = ∫ EdA which i can then change into Q = ρ EDV
I can fill in ρ as the Q/ Volume of sphere and dV for a surface area. But than i am stuck with an integral i do not know how to solve.
 
Write down the complete expression for that integral (counts as attempt at solution !)
 
Well the full expression then would be Q = ∫r0 (q/πr4)r(4πr²dr)

My apologies, i do not know how to put a combination of sub and super script on an integral, the 0 is supposed to be at the bottom.
 
yeah, the ordinary fonts aren't very good at that. To do it right you need ##LaTeX##
I interpret your formula as $$ Q = \int_0^R {q\over 4\pi r} r \; 4\pi r^2 \,dr $$ correct me if I am wrong (i.e. for example: upper limit R not r)

Can you explain what your Q stands for and how you set it up to look like this ? What is lower case q ?

And we are talking about part (a) with ##r > R##, right ?

With Gauss' law in this spherically symmetric case, you can write ## E = \displaystyle {Q\over 4\pi\varepsilon_0 \; r^2}\ ## with ##Q## the total charge; agree ?Also: re exercise shrewdness :wink: : if you see a 5th power of R divided by 5 in the answer desired, doesn't that ring a bell about a possible integrand ?
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Yes about part (a).

the lower case q should be uppercase, my mistake. The Q stands for the charge of the whole sphere.

And yes i agree with that part, But i don't think i can fill in Q by what i have managed to get to find E or can i?

Also, i suppose it doesn't ring a bell for me as i have no idea how that could lead me to a possible integrand.

Oh and btw, thank you very much for helping me!
 
You are welcome.

If your q is actually Q then you have a circular reference in excel language :biggrin: : the variable is both on the left and on the right side of the equation

The expression to get Q when given ## \ \rho = Ar^2\ ## is what we are still struggling with, right ?

If, in a small volume ##dV\, ## the charge density is ##\rho, \ ## then the charge in that small volume is ##\rho dV##.

For a larger volume ##V## with a charge density ##\rho(\vec r)## (depending on position), the total charge is then ##Q=\int_V \rho(\vec r) \, dV##.

Can you now write the correct version of your integral in #5 ? You have all the ingredients!
 

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