Electric Potential Energy of protons

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The problem involves two protons being hurled towards each other with an initial kinetic energy of 0.16 MeV each. The objective is to determine the separation distance between the protons when they momentarily come to a stop, utilizing concepts from electric potential energy and conservation of energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants express confusion about how to initiate the problem, particularly regarding the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy. There are attempts to apply the conservation of energy principle and manipulate relevant equations.

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Some participants have shared their calculations and results, while others have pointed out potential errors in reasoning or calculations. There is ongoing exploration of the correct approach to the problem, with various interpretations being discussed.

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Participants note the initial kinetic energy values and the need to consider both protons' energies in calculations. There is mention of the specific equations relevant to electric potential energy and kinetic energy, as well as the constants involved.

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Homework Statement



Two protons that are very far apart are hurled straight at each other, each with an initial kinetic energy of 0.16 MeV, where 1 mega electron volt is equal to 1x10^6 multiply (1.6x10^-19) joules. What is the separation of the protons from each other when they momentarily come to a stop?

Homework Equations



Ue = (1/4\pi\epsilon)((q_{1}q_{2})/r)
E_{f} = E_{i} + W

The Attempt at a Solution



I am very confused on how to get this problem started, especially since they give the kinetic energy. I tried to manipulate the kinetic energy formula ((1/2)mv^2) but I am still really confused on how to approach this problem.
 
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syjxpatty said:

Homework Statement



Two protons that are very far apart are hurled straight at each other, each with an initial kinetic energy of 0.16 MeV, where 1 mega electron volt is equal to 1x10^6 multiply (1.6x10^-19) joules. What is the separation of the protons from each other when they momentarily come to a stop?


Homework Equations



Ue = (1/4\pi\epsilon)((q_{1}q_{2})/r)
E_{f} = E_{i} + W

The Attempt at a Solution



I am very confused on how to get this problem started, especially since they give the kinetic energy. I tried to manipulate the kinetic energy formula ((1/2)mv^2) but I am still really confused on how to approach this problem.

Conservation of energy

Total Kinetic energy at the beginning + potential energy at the beginning = total kinetic energy at the final position plus potential energy at the final position

The initial position is when they each have the kinetic energy you gave but they are very far from each other. The final position is when they are at the point of closest approach
 
Ohh alright so do I still do,

e = kq^2/r where r is distance between protons
k is 9*10^9
0.16 * 1*10^6*1.6*10^-19 = 9*10^9 * (1.6*10^-19)^2 / r
then I got r as (9x10^-15)

the thing is that I got it wrong when i did it this way.
 
syjxpatty said:
Ohh alright so do I still do,

e = kq^2/r where r is distance between protons
k is 9*10^9
0.16 * 1*10^6*1.6*10^-19 = 9*10^9 * (1.6*10^-19)^2 / r
then I got r as (9x10^-15)

the thing is that I got it wrong when i did it this way.

Each has an energy of 0.16 MeV so your initial total kinetic energy is twice what you wrote
 
ok! I got the separation as 4.5x10^-15 m ! Thank you!
 
syjxpatty said:
ok! I got the separation as 4.5x10^-15 m ! Thank you!

You are very welcome!:smile:
 

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