Electric Potential-Work Problem

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The problem involves calculating the work required to move a charged particle from infinity to a specific point in the electric field created by two fixed charges. The subject area is electric potential and work in electrostatics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between electric potential and work, with some attempting to derive the work done using the electric field and potential due to the fixed charges. Questions arise regarding how to handle the concept of infinity in the calculations.

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Some participants have offered insights into calculating the potential at the target point and how it relates to the work done. There is ongoing exploration of the definitions and relationships between electric potential, electric field, and work, with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants are navigating the implications of moving a charge from a point of zero potential (infinity) to a defined point in the presence of other charges, raising questions about the assumptions involved in defining potential and work.

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Homework Statement



Referring to the figure attached, how much work must be done to bring a particle, of charge Q = +16e and initially at rest, along the dashed line from infinity to the indicated point near two fixed particles of charges q1 = +4e and q2 = -2e?

Distance d = 1.40 cm, theta 1 = 43 degrees, and theta 2 = 60 degrees.

Homework Equations



[tex]E = \frac{kQ}{r^2}[/tex]

[tex]v = Ed = \frac{Fd}{q} = \frac{w}{q}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I've solved for the net E field produced by the 2 still charges. My thought is that I would plug in the magnitude of that value into [tex]Ed = \frac{w}{q}[/tex] along with the charge from the moving particle and that would produce a value for w... But, I do not know what to use for distance... how do I handle the infinity... with a limit?

Help appreciated.
 

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The work must be done to bring the charge Q from infinity (where potential is supposed to be zero) to some point in space is Q times the potential of the electric field in this point (say point A). All you need to do is to find the potential due to [tex]q_1[/tex] and [tex]q_2[/tex] in A. From attached picture you know the distances from [tex]q_1[/tex] and [tex]q_2[/tex] to A, so it's easy to find the potential due to each of charge and then add them to find the total potential. Note also that the work done by the electric field when YOU are moving the charge in it is MINUS the work perfomed by YOU.
 
I'm not sure I understand,

Are you saying that

[tex]q_1 E_{net} = v_1[/tex]

and that the same is true for q2 and v2... so,

[tex]v_1+v_2 =\Delta V[/tex]

Therefore

[tex]w = Q \Delta V[/tex]
 
I'm saying that the work done is
[tex]W = - Q \int_{\infty}^{A} \mathbf{E} \mathbf{dl} = Q \left[ \varphi(A) - \varphi(\infty) \right][/tex]
If you set [tex]\varphi ({\infty) = 0[/tex] (remember that potential is only defined up to an additive constant) then
[tex]W = Q \varphi (A)[/tex]
where
[tex]\varphi (A) = \varphi_{q1} + \varphi_{q2}[/tex]
that is the sum of two potentials due to each of the charge.
 
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