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The discussion centers on an incident where a Duraflame fake fireplace heater unexpectedly turned on while other devices, including internet and TV, turned off due to a power spike or dropout. The user noted that their laptop remained operational, likely due to its battery. Participants suggested that nearby heavy-load inductive devices, possibly from a factory, could be causing electrical disturbances. The conversation also highlighted concerns about the reliability of modern "soft" on/off switches and the potential need for electrical inspections.

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I wasn't sure where to put this.

The other night my electric heater turned itself on. It's a duraflame fake fireplace heater. It turned on, the flames turned on, it was 85F at the time and the unit was off, but plugged in. At the same time in a different outlet my internet and tv turned off. My laptop, which was in the same surge protector as the internet and cable did not turn off, but that could be because of the battery. A lamp that was turned on and plugged into the same outlet as the fireplace did not turn off.

I turned everything back on without trouble. I turned off and unplugged the heater.

Any ideas what happened? No storms at the time.
 
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Well, one thing that is clear is that it was a power spike (or possibly a dropout) of some kind that triggered electrical on/off functionality on all devices that HAD electrical on/off functionality. That is, your light bulb, which is controlled by mechanical on/off functionality was not affected. I'm sure that it WAS indeed the battery that kept the laptop on by avoiding any affect on the electrical on/off functionality by keeping the power level up.

Are there any factories nearby? It's possible that this was due to someone switching on a very heavy-load inductive device (big motor most likely)
 
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That is the problem with "soft" On/Off switches. Don't keep flammables on a stove top with "soft" On/Off switches.
 
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Many modern on/off switches are better described as on/less on.
 
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Digital poltergeists?
Traveling through a bad spot in the universe?
You are being messed with by outside govt agencies?

The stuff is made in china and is probably breaking?

All of the above?
 
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Neutral/Earth problems can produce interesting things, maybe worth to call somebody to check?
 
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Evo said:
duraflame fake fireplace heater.
Do you have the model number? Some time back, Duraflame had a recall for one of their fireplaces that tended to catch on fire, but the cites I read didn't go into the failure mode particulars.
 
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Asymptotic said:
Do you have the model number? Some time back, Duraflame had a recall for one of their fireplaces that tended to catch on fire, but the cites I read didn't go into the failure mode particulars.
I'll have to check that.
phinds said:
Are there any factories nearby? It's possible that this was due to someone switching on a very heavy-load inductive device (big motor most likely)
Yes, I am near a huge factory, I can hear it operating at night, sounds very spooky. I have unplugged everything around the house that isn't in use. I have heard of power surges turning things OFF, but this is the first time I had something turn ON. It was a wake up call.
 
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... I am near a huge factory
Well, that most likely explains it then. It's possible that they have installed a new machine very recently so you should keep an eye out for this sort of thing in the short term. With luck it won't happen again. If it does you should contact the power company and see if there's anything they can do for you.
 
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All this even without an IOT equipped heater. Once that is in place we might be able hack each other's devices and turn them on
MUHa Ha Ha Ha.
 

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