Electrical Engineering and Digital Night Vision

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the requirements and considerations for a career in the field of electrical engineering as it pertains to the development of digital night vision systems. Participants explore the roles of various engineering disciplines involved in this technology, including optics, power supply, and digital signal processing.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks input on job requirements for a career related to digital night vision systems, indicating a need for guidance on relevant knowledge and skills.
  • Another participant suggests that the field may be narrow and highlights advancements in camera sensor technology that may have reduced obstacles in low-light imaging.
  • A participant outlines three main components of night vision systems: optics, power supply/control systems, and digital signal processing (DSP), emphasizing the collaborative roles of electrical engineers and physicists.
  • There is a discussion about the classification of sensors within the optics group, with differing opinions on whether this categorization is appropriate based on the distinct skills required for optical and sensor design.
  • Clarification is provided on acronyms such as DSP (Digital Signal Processing) and E&M (Electromagnetic), indicating their relevance to night vision camera design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of sensors in relation to optics, with some agreeing on the importance of distinguishing between the two fields due to their differing skill sets. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriateness of this classification.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the roles involved in night vision technology and the potential for varying interpretations of job requirements and skill sets across different engineering disciplines.

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Hello,
I am an Electrical Engineering student at the University of Georgia and will have to give a presentation on my dream job. I have to give specifics on what I would need to know. If I could get some input or maybe a job application that states the requirements. I know Electrical Engineering are not the only ones involved in the making of this equipment. Any input would be gratefully appreciated.
 
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I will give you our stock answer to this sort of question and that is "What have you read and what have you found out so far?"
We all get tetchy at the idea of giving anyone help if we can't see they are helping themselves. Press the right buttons and you may be flooded with ideas from PF.
 
Also that field seems pretty narrow - and IMO almost at a technical end from a mass market / need standpoint, camera sensors are sooo sensitive to low light these days it seems most of the obstacles have been overcome... but look up the companies producing these devices and review the spec sheets, are most of the specifications, especially the ones they brag about, electrical?
 
There are 3 main parts of producing night vision systems. The optics, the power supply/control system, and the DSP.
The are usually electrical engineers and physicists. This involves developing the optical systems per system requirements and then giving the power supply/control system teams requirements for the optical systems. skills are E&M, analog design, digital design, and optics
The power supply/control system peeps are electrical engineers who design the electrical sources that power the lenses. Skills are analog and digital design and controls.
The DSP teams will work with the optical teams and power supply teams to do whatever they have to do for that particular project. skills are digital design.

Obviously there is a little more that goes into it, but those are the main groups.
 
Good description, Don, but you missed the sensor (unless you considered it part of the "optics", which is a bit weird).
 
analogdesign said:
Good description, Don, but you missed the sensor (unless you considered it part of the "optics", which is a bit weird).
I did lump the sensor into the optics group. If you don't mind me asking why would that be considered weird?
 
Thank you donpacino. This gives me some insight. I have a few questions though. DSP? Digital Signal Processing? E&M?
 
donpacino said:
I did lump the sensor into the optics group. If you don't mind me asking why would that be considered weird?

No biggie, it's just that I design readout ICs for various image sensors for a living and I've never, ever seen the sensor lumped in with the optics. This is primarily because the skills required for optical design are so different that the skills required for sensor design. We speak different languages even. Our group is an end-to-end provider from camera mechanics to software, yet we buy our optics. There is nothing wrong with combining the optics with the sensor in principle, I've just never seen it in practice. I was honestly curious.

kaleikaumaka said:
Thank you donpacino. This gives me some insight. I have a few questions though. DSP? Digital Signal Processing? E&M?

What is your question? You don't understand the acronyms? You're right DSP = Digital Signal Processing. E&M means Electromagnetic. This was to show the a night vision camera design would require some knowledge of wave propagation and the like.
 
analogdesign said:
No biggie, it's just that I design readout ICs for various image sensors for a living and I've never, ever seen the sensor lumped in with the optics. This is primarily because the skills required for optical design are so different that the skills required for sensor design. We speak different languages even. Our group is an end-to-end provider from camera mechanics to software, yet we buy our optics. There is nothing wrong with combining the optics with the sensor in principle, I've just never seen it in practice. I was honestly curious.

Thats cool. I worked for two years in the power supply & controls group. We were just given specs for the optical package that included the sensors, so i figured it was done by the same group. Thank you for the insight.
 

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