Electricity - polarization/grounding

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The discussion centers on the concepts of polarization and grounding in electrostatics, specifically involving two charged balls, X and Y. When ball Y is grounded, it cannot gain protons from the ground, leading to the conclusion that ball X remains negatively charged while ball Y becomes positively charged. However, the final determination is that both balls end up negatively charged after the removal of the positively charged ball, which raises questions about the movement of protons through grounding. The confusion stems from the misunderstanding of charge movement and grounding principles.

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So in step 3, the positive ball Y is grounded. But protons can't move into the ground and all (most) of the electrons are in ball X. I was thinking the electrons in ball X were too heavily attracted by ball + to travel through ball Y to get to the ground.

So the answer should be X = negative, and Y = positive, right? Because nothing really happened when it was grounded...
 
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It is possible that Y neutralized while it was grounded...electrons from the ground could come up and neutralize Y (you could expect current when there is a potential difference).
 
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It is possible that Y neutralized while it was grounded...electrons from the ground could come up and neutralize Y (you could expect current when there is a potential difference).

But then after Y is neutralized, the electrons would still move over to X because of the + ball attracts them while they're still connected. So would X still be negative and Y positive?

THEN I see in step 5 that the + ball is removed before the balls are removed from each other. Is this implying they neutralize each other after the + ball is taken away?


EDIT: OK, the answer turned out to be negative and negative, WHICH MAKES NO SENSE. How can protons travel through the wire into the ground?!
 
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