Electrodynamics, Need help with problem

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The problem involves calculating the electric field and electrostatic potential within an infinitely long cylindrical volume with a non-constant charge density defined as ρ(s) = ks^4, where k is a constant and s is the distance from the cylinder's axis. The task includes finding the electric field everywhere in space and determining the potential inside the cylinder, assuming the potential is zero along the axis of symmetry.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the enclosed charge using an integral and expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their flux calculation. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the length of the cylinder in the calculations and suggest that using an arbitrary length L could help check dimensions. Others clarify that the integral and flux calculations are valid for the unit length assumption.

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Participants have provided guidance on the calculations, with some confirming the correctness of the original poster's integral and flux. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between the electric field and potential, with some participants indicating that the original poster is on the right track with their approach.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the implications of assuming a unit length versus an arbitrary length in the calculations, as well as the need to ensure dimensional consistency throughout the problem. The potential is defined to be zero at the axis, which is a key assumption in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



An infinitely long cylindrical volume of radius R contains a charge density ρ(s)=ks4 where k is a constant and s is the distance from the axis of the cylinder. Note that this is NOT a constant density.

a) Find the electric field everywhere in space.

b) From your result in part a) find the electrostatic potential inside the cylinder, assuming that the potential vanishes along the axis of symmetry, V(s)|[s=0]=0

Homework Equations



∫E*dA

closed surface : ∫E*dA = Qenc /εo

Qenc = ∫ρ dτ

The Attempt at a Solution



Qenc = k ∫∫∫ s'^4 s' ds'dz'dθ'

it came out to be 2∏klR^6 / 6 εo

flux = kR^5 / 6εo

I'm not sure this is correct so I cannot continue to part b)
 
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You have (apparently) assumed a unit length of your wire. In your calculations I would have assumed an arbitrary length L intead. Why? Because that way you can check your dimensions in all your terms as you proceed in your calculations.

But, for unit length of wire, your integral is correct. And so is your calculation of flux E(s).

So you can go on. Realize of course that E(s) = what you came up with is valid only for 0 <= s <= R.

So potential is defined as zero on the axis. What is the work needed to take a unit test charge from the axis out to the wire surface and then out some more to infinity? (You are moving the test charge in a radial direction).
 
Why did your flux lose an R in the numerator? Remember that flux= Q/(e_0). It should be your net charge enclosed and not that divided by R.

Edit: Perhaps you wrote flux meaning the field?

In that case, OP did NOT assume unit length- the L's cancel when you set the flux equal to Q/epsilon, because each involves an L. If he had an L left somewhere the units would be off.
 
So with the E I can find the potential but plugging it to this,
V(r) = -∫E*dr . Thank you guys!
 
I worked it out today and change some notations, I came up with E(r) = kr^5/6εo for 0<= r <= R and E(r) = kR^6/6rεo for R< r.
 
schaefera said:
Why did your flux lose an R in the numerator? Remember that flux= Q/(e_0). It should be your net charge enclosed and not that divided by R.

Edit: Perhaps you wrote flux meaning the field?

In that case, OP did NOT assume unit length- the L's cancel when you set the flux equal to Q/epsilon, because each involves an L. If he had an L left somewhere the units would be off.

Never mind. I did not see the small "l" in his integral.
 
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Stan12 said:
So with the E I can find the potential but plugging it to this,
V(r) = -∫E*dr . Thank you guys!

You are on the right track!
 

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