Electrolysis of aq CuCl2 with Ag electrode

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The discussion revolves around the electrolysis of aqueous Copper (II) Chloride (CuCl2) using silver electrodes, focusing on the products formed at the cathode and anode, and the factors influencing these reactions. Participants explore the reactions occurring at both electrodes and the complexities introduced by the presence of multiple ions in solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether copper or silver will be deposited at the cathode, given that both ions are present in the solution.
  • It is noted that the voltage applied and the identification of the cathode and anode are crucial for determining the reactions that occur.
  • Participants discuss the possible reactions at the anode, considering the presence of chlorides and the concentration of the solution, which may influence the products formed.
  • There is mention of the possibility that Cu2+ could be reduced to Cu+ under certain conditions, though the reasonableness of this is questioned.
  • Some participants highlight the confusion at the cathode due to the presence of both Ag+ and Cu2+, suggesting that the setup is relatively simple and aimed at a basic understanding.
  • One participant emphasizes that the concentration of CuCl2 is critical, as it affects whether silver or copper will deposit, noting that low concentrations may lead to silver dissolving and depositing, while higher concentrations may favor copper deposition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the exact products of electrolysis and the conditions under which they occur. Multiple competing views remain about the reactions at the electrodes and the influence of concentration on the outcomes.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the concentration of the aqueous solution is not specified, which may significantly impact the electrolysis results. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the concentration of ions present in determining the reactions that take place.

matthew77ask
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I have a question on electrolysis:

In the electrolysis of aq Copper (II) Chloride using silver electrodes, what are the products?

Cathode : Copper or silver are deposited here? cos both are in the solution

anode : silver electrode decrease in size... with silver deposits?

Am I correct?
 
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You need to know the voltage applied and you need to know what is the cathode and what is the anode.
 
matthew77ask said:
using silver electrodes

symbolipoint said:
you need to know what is the cathode and what is the anode.

Seems like that's a given.

Basically the question can be split in two:

What is the reaction on anode? What are possibilities?

What is the easiest to reduce substance present in the solution, one that will be reduced first?

And don't forget about chlorides presence. Concentration is not given, but it may be not that important, perhaps it will be possible to estimate what is happening without knowing exact numbers.
 
Borek said:
Seems like that's a given.

Basically the question can be split in two:

What is the reaction on anode? What are possibilities?

What is the easiest to reduce substance present in the solution, one that will be reduced first?

And don't forget about chlorides presence. Concentration is not given, but it may be not that important, perhaps it will be possible to estimate what is happening without knowing exact numbers.

I misunderstood. TWO ELECTRODES, both Silver.

So if electrolysis will occur, the Cu+2 will become reduced to Cu metal at one particular electrode, and Ag+ will form and go into solution at the other electrode.
 
symbolipoint said:
So if electrolysis will occur, the Cu+2 will become reduced to Cu metal at one particular electrode, and Ag+ will form and go into solution at the other electrode.

Not necessarily. But let's allow OP to answer the question this time.
 
Cu+2 could be reduced to Cu+1, depending on voltage and conditions of solution; not sure if this is reasonable for electrolysis. Probably is.
 
it's confusing at the cathode - cos both Ag+ (from the anode) and Cu2+ (from the electrolyte ) are present.
Its more of a simple set up without going into too much details. Its for O level type of question.
Concentration - aqueous solution.
 
matthew77ask said:
it's confusing at the cathode - cos both Ag+ (from the anode) and Cu2+ (from the electrolyte ) are present.
Its more of a simple set up without going into too much details. Its for O level type of question.
Concentration - aqueous solution.

Good attention to detail, there. Yes, if the anode is producing Ag+, then the cathode could be depositing Ag and either plating Cu0 or making Cu+1. My wits stop there.
 
matthew77ask said:
it's confusing at the cathode - cos both Ag+ (from the anode) and Cu2+ (from the electrolyte ) are present.
Its more of a simple set up without going into too much details. Its for O level type of question.
Concentration - aqueous solution.

Honestly - I have no idea what the intended answer is. Remember that silver concentration is limited by the silver chloride solubility in the presence of chlorides from copper chloride. That means it all depends on the concentration of CuCl2. For low concentrations silver dissolves and deposits, Cu2+ is just a spectator. For higher concentrations - copper deposits till its concentration is so low silver starts to deposit. "Aqueous solution" doesn't tell anything about concentration, it can be anything - saturated copper chloride solution is close to 2M, diluting it to 10-5M is five minutes work. Limiting concentration (one that changes the experiment outcome) lies in between.
 

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