Electromagnetism in the Lithosphere and Ionosphere

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The discussion centers on the potential effects of a massive solar flare on the Earth's lithosphere and ionosphere, particularly regarding geomagnetic rocks and telluric currents. Participants clarify that the ionosphere is ionized rather than charged and emphasize the need for a foundational understanding of physics to explore these concepts effectively. Key terms such as "coronal mass ejections" and "geomagnetic field storming" are highlighted as critical areas for further research. The conversation underscores the importance of a solid grounding in physics for anyone interested in speculative architecture related to solar events.

PREREQUISITES
  • Fundamentals of electromagnetism
  • Understanding of ionosphere and lithosphere interactions
  • Knowledge of coronal mass ejections and their effects
  • Basic principles of telluric currents
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the effects of coronal mass ejections on Earth's geomagnetic field
  • Study the principles of geomagnetic field storming
  • Explore the relationship between solar activity and atmospheric ionization
  • Investigate the implications of telluric currents in architectural design
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This discussion is beneficial for architecture students, physicists, and anyone interested in the intersection of solar phenomena and structural design, particularly in speculative architecture contexts.

Paul Brooke
Hi guys,

Disclaimer: not a physicist (I wish I was that brainy)

Quick question regarding a speculative architecture project I am undertaking;

In the completely hypothetical event of a huge, otherworldly solar flare super-charging the Earth's ionosphere beyond anything we have ever recorded before, is there the possibility of the geomagnetic rocks in the Earth's lithosphere becoming charged, or an effect to the telluric current.

Also, I am completely aware that human life would probably not survive this, welcome to the world of a speculative architecture student haha

Any references etc, just throw them in there, never too much info!

Thanks for the help guys!
 
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Welcome to the PF, Paul.

FYI, we try to help others answer questions here at the PF, but you have to help us understand your question as best as you can please. So posting a question with a series of specific terms that folks have to have prior knowledge of or spend time Googling is kind of a problem. I burned time Googling some of your terms, but am still unsure of what you are asking. Are you just asking if we can build shielded shelters to survive a major solar flare event?
Paul Brooke said:
regarding a speculative architecture project I am undertaking
Paul Brooke said:
welcome to the world of a speculative architecture student
Interesting -- is that a new vocation that I'm just learning about? :smile:
Paul Brooke said:
ionosphere
http://www.blueplanet.nsw.edu.au/SiteFiles/blueplanetnsweduau/atmosphere.jpg
atmosphere.jpg

Paul Brooke said:
lithosphere
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/images/lithosphere.gif
lithosphere.gif

Paul Brooke said:
or an effect to the telluric current
 
Paul Brooke said:
In the completely hypothetical event of a huge, otherworldly solar flare super-charging the Earth's ionosphere beyond anything we have ever recorded before, is there the possibility of the geomagnetic rocks in the Earth's lithosphere becoming charged, or an effect to the telluric current.

As far as I am aware, the ionosphere is not charged, it is ionized, and there's nothing the Sun can do to "supercharge" it. Assuming a massive influx of free electrons or protons from space, I suppose the excess charge would be discharged through the atmosphere to the ground though, so perhaps that was what you were asking?
 
Drakkith said:
As far as I am aware, the ionosphere is not charged, it is ionized, and there's nothing the Sun can do to "supercharge" it. Assuming a massive influx of free electrons or protons from space, I suppose the excess charge would be discharged through the atmosphere to the ground though, so perhaps that was what you were asking?

Thank you for your reply, this is very helpful in order to formulate my project thesis. I will research more into the influx of free electrons and protons to inform the direction of my study.
 
berkeman said:
Interesting -- is that a new vocation that I'm just learning about? :smile:

Very interesting indeed, my vocation is BSc Architecture / MArch at The Bartlett School of Architecture, however I enjoy taking a more prospective approach to the study to "think outside of the box" as a precursor to succinct architectural science and synthesis.

Sorry for the confusion in my question, my main point of enquiry is whether any solar event can have an affect on the charge of the geomagnetic rocks in the Earth.

Thanks again for taking the time to search up some of the terminology used in my question, as you can probably tell I'm not a regular to the Physics Forum haha!
 
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Paul Brooke said:
Thank you for your reply, this is very helpful in order to formulate my project thesis. I will research more into the influx of free electrons and protons to inform the direction of my study.

Paul Brooke said:
Very interesting indeed, my vocation is BSc Architecture / MArch at The Bartlett School of Architecture, however I enjoy taking a more prospective approach to the study to "think outside of the box" as a precursor to succinct architectural science and synthesis.

Be aware that you cannot approach this in half-measures. By that I mean that trying to do independent study of this topic, without having all of the prerequisite knowledge of physics that those who specialize in this field have, will get you nowhere. It will almost certainly lead you astray without you even knowing. Unless you're just interested in learning about the ionosphere and the effect that "space weather" has on it as a hobby, then don't even try. You'll just be wasting your time. Instead, strive to learn physics from the ground up before even attempting to approach this topic.

As we often say around here, you need to know where the boundaries of the box are before you can begin to think outside of it.
 
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Paul Brooke said:
Thank you for your reply, this is very helpful in order to formulate my project thesis. I will research more into the influx of free electrons and protons to inform the direction of my study.

for that part of it, you should be googling coronal mass ejections, geomagnetic field storming, aurora

I have quite a few posts on the subject, mainly about the occurrence thereof. Lots more in depth info on the net.
 
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