Electrostatics: A square with point charges on the corners

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The problem involves electrostatics, specifically the arrangement of point charges at the corners of a square and determining the position and charge of a fifth point charge needed for equilibrium.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the concept of equilibrium in the context of forces acting on the charges, with one participant questioning the equations necessary for expressing equilibrium. Another participant explores the idea of simplifying the system by considering the four charges as one due to symmetry.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of how to approach the problem, with some participants suggesting the use of vectors to analyze the forces involved. There is an indication that one participant has made progress in understanding the placement of the fifth charge.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector analysis and symmetry in electrostatics, with some expressing challenges in visualizing the forces at play. The original poster seeks hints rather than complete solutions, aligning with homework guidelines.

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Hello,
I am doing electrostatics at the moment and have difficulties to solve the following problem. Any hint that helps me to find the answer will be appreciated!

"On every corner of a square are movable point charges with the charge of 'q'. Where does a fifth movable point charge have to be and what charge does it need to have so that the system is in equilibrium?"

The answer is -0.957q and I do not know how to get that.
 
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Well, "the system needs to be in equilibrium"...What equation do you use to express the equilibrium of the system ?

marlon
 
Mh, my idea is that you can consider the four charges as one since the electric field lines between them equal out, so that only the lines on the outside of the square act on a point charge.
The force caused by the four charges that acts on the fifth charge has to be a great as the force that is caused by the fifth charge and acts on the four charges.
Is that what you mean?
 
I figured it out!
I tried to do it without vectors and that just does not work ;)

If you do it with vectors and since it is symmetrical, you can calculate the forces acting on on point charge. The fifth point charge needs to be in the center.
 

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