Electrostatics problem- two sphere

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The problem involves a spherical capacitor made up of two thin metal spheres with a common center. The scenario describes a series of operations where the outer sphere is raised to a potential +V, connected to the inner sphere, and then returned to ground potential. The task is to determine the final potential and charge on the inner sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of raising the spheres to potential V and the resulting lack of electric field and charge on the inner sphere. Questions arise regarding the maintenance of potential between the spheres during the discharge process and the interpretation of Gauss' law in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the reasoning behind the charge and potential of the inner sphere. Some guidance has been offered to expand on the reasoning presented, and there is a recognition of the need for clarity regarding the problem statement and the behavior of the electric field between the spheres.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a potential misunderstanding regarding the terminology used in the problem statement, specifically the distinction between "two sphere" and "two spheres." There is also an emphasis on the need to clarify the assumptions about the electric field and potential gradient between the spheres.

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Homework Statement


A spherical capacitor comprises two thin metal spheres of different radii but with
a common centre. The following series of operations is completed: The spheres are mutually connected by an internal wire. The outer sphere is raised to potential +V with respect to ground. The internal connection is broken. The outer sphere is returned to ground potential. Determine the final potential and the final charge on the inner sphere

Homework Equations


Gauss' law

The Attempt at a Solution


So initially when both spheres are raised to a potential V, no potential gradient exists across the two spheres, and hence no electric field can exist. So by Gauss' law the charge enclosed, ie. on the inner sphere, is zero. When the connection is broken and the outer sphere is returned to ground the charge will still be zero. But then this automatically implies that the potential must be zero? So no potential or charge resides on the inner sphere.

Does this sound reasonable? My only concern is that the inner sphere must maintain the same potential as the outer during the entire discharge process, or else an electric field would exist between them, which would not be consistent?

Many thanks :)
 
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So initially when both spheres are raised to a potential V, no potential gradient exists across the two spheres, and hence no electric field can exist. So by Gauss' law the charge enclosed, ie. on the inner sphere, is zero.
... you may want to expand on this reasoning. It is correct, but you have not explained it.

My only concern is that the inner sphere must maintain the same potential as the outer during the entire discharge process,..
That is not what the problem statement says.

(Note: a "two sphere" is a circle ... your problem involves "two spheres" - the "s" on the end indicates a plural so the reader realizes there is more than one object.)
 
Simon Bridge said:
... you may want to expand on this reasoning. It is correct, but you have not explained it.

That is not what the problem statement says.

(Note: a "two sphere" is a circle ... your problem involves "two spheres" - the "s" on the end indicates a plural so the reader realizes there is more than one object.)

But if there exists no electric field between the two spheres at any point then there can be no potential gradient between them at any point. But this would suggest that they always carry the same potential?

And sorry- my mistake (typo)
 
Try expressing in terms of the movement of charge.
 

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